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Atypical Herpes?

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    • September 15, 2018 at 9:17 am #26844
      Nervous128
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      My partner had a one night stand with an anonymous women in the beginning of May. I got tested for everything after that except HSV in beginning of July and everything was negative. We moved past it and had unprotected sex until end of July when we started using condoms. So 1 month unprotected sex. Around August 9 he tells me he has a rash on the shaft of his penis. It is sorta red and it is mostly soft and flaky then red skin is underneath it but it is itchy. No burning is what he said. No problem with peeing. It is still there today (about 4 weeks) and hasnt changed in size. But it is harder from the rest of his penis now because he has been treating it with jock itch but it wont go away. He also has eczema flaky skin on the rest of his body but said he never saw it on his penis before. On Aug 22nd I took herpes test all negative. On September 3rd I woke up in middle of night feeling itchy and like something was crawling around my vagina. Like bugs. The itchy intensified and then my vagina felt raw. I self treated September 7th thru 9th with Monistat 3 day. This helped some of the itching but not alot. On Sept 10th went to clinic and nurse said vagina looked red and raw but saw no lesions. Took a yeast culture which was negative but they treated me for yeast anyway woth one pill Diflucan. Went back to clinic Sept 12 with pain with urine prescribed antibiotics but itching had lessened. Now Sept 14th vagina was burning bad all day and I felt a really small bump on my left labia plus felt like I had a cut on inner vagina same side. It really burned there. Looked with a mirror and thought i saw an ulcer. Not sure though. Today Sept 15th burning is slightly better but still there. Dont see an ulcer now. My questions: a. Does this sound like atypical herpes?? b. Should I test again? c. if the last exposure was May was my HSV ELISA blood test too soon? d. Could the rash on his penis be eczema? e. Can papercut herpes disappear that fast? Last sexual intercourse on Aug

    • September 23, 2018 at 11:51 am #26940
      Terri Warren
      Keymaster

      I think this is somewhat concerning, yes, the bump and the ulcer and the papercuts. But it certainly doesn’t mean that you have herpes. Has your boyfriend been tested? If yes, what it is his status. If he has not yet been tested, it would be useful if he was. The IgG test misses 30% of HSV 1 so that’s possible I suppose. If you get any kind of symptoms again,please have them swab tested. I would suggest that a dermatologist try to sort out what is going on with his penis. Herpes would not appear like this nor last this long unchanged.

      Terri

    • September 29, 2018 at 8:58 am #27048
      Nervous128
      Participant

      Thanks for your response. No my boyfriend hasnt been tested. His issue is better now but his penis is slighlt discolored still. I got a swab done of the cut and it came back negative for both HSVs as well as an IGG test and IGM (which I know is worthless) that came back negative for both but I know that it is still too early yet for IGG as we are only a little over 4 weeks out from my last encounter with bf. Can they swab test bumps? The tiny bump I have is in my inner lip on the left hand side. It is tiny and red and painless. I still have slight itchiness and that has been since my symptoms started Sept 2nd. Would the itciness of herpes stay around this long? Do you suggest I get the bump swabbed and do you suggest I get another igg at 6 weeks then also 12?

    • September 29, 2018 at 11:07 am #27052
      Terri Warren
      Keymaster

      I do think you should get bumps swab tested and repeat the IgG at 6 weeks – by six weeks, 70% of people who are going to make antibody will have done so. It’s not final,but it will give you some useful information

      Terri

    • September 30, 2018 at 1:11 am #27101
      Nervous128
      Spectator

      Ok, I’ll do that. If you have symptoms only vaginally, can you transfer it orally if you give someone oral sex? Also is vaginal burning during sex a common symptom of herpes infection?

    • October 1, 2018 at 5:28 pm #27118
      Nervous128
      Spectator

      Bump PCR swab tested and came back negative. What are the chances the bump from herpes wouldnt show up when I had initial symtpoms in the beginning of Sept? I went to three Drs at the height of my symptoms in Sept and none saw this bump and now i just noticed the bump and it is almost a month later. Would something like that happen with a reoccurrence? I feel like this has been going on for 4 weeks now. Would an initial herpes breakout last this long? I’m unsure what to do now as I just want answers. According to all blood and culture test I dont have herpes but I still have symptoms. A red bump inside my labia minora I dont know what else that could be. I have had light bleeding since last Thursday as well. Is breakthrough bleeding a common symptom of herpes?

    • October 4, 2018 at 10:02 am #27172
      Terri Warren
      Keymaster

      It is highly unlikely that a herpes outbreak would last for four weeks also, herpes lesions do not bleed normally. If you have symptoms only genitally and you are only infected genitally, you cannot transmit through your mouth. It is good news that the PCR came back negative. If you want greatest clarity, you can obtain the Western blot when you work 12 weeks from the last encounter that concerns you.

      This is your final post on the subscription. If you have a questions, feel free to renew.

      Terri

    • October 29, 2018 at 9:39 pm #27647
      Nervous128
      Spectator

      Hi Terri. Unfortunately my problems haven’t gone. Here is the timeline where I left off:

      Oct 5th thru 19th got sore throat – really bad cold

      Oct 8th – finished yeast meds & bactrim. Tingling in gential and anal region still present

      Oct 9th – started having urinary problems again. Little bump that was swabbed negative still there-smaller

      Oct 10th – urinary problems still present with white discharge

      Oct 12th – white discharge still present. Period starts. Go to nurse prescribes yeast infection cream suppositories. 6 week HSV IGG tests come back negative

      Oct 16th – little bump gone but new bump – Ingrown hair left inner lip seen

      Oct 19th – White discharge gone. Some bleeding

      Oct 20th – early morning sex with partner and observe cluster of ingrown hair type scabs and one further up on his shaft. He claims ingrowm hairs. Brown blood present through sex but this time no burning or pain

      Oct 21 – sex again blood during again – itchy after. See ingrown white bump hair lower outer right lip still present today

      Oct 22nd – heavy abdominal cramping woke me up middle of night. Heavy blood

      Oct 23rd thru Fri 26th – bleed all week, tingling feeling starts in gential and anal area

      Oct 26th – see nurse again. She inspect white bump which still present. Declares it an ingrown hair. Recommends cream to balance Ph. Doesnt think herpes cause no large cluster or primary outbreak.

      Oct 27th – sharp jabs to vagina started, tingling intensifies keeps me up at night, slightly itchy, bleeding tapers off

      Oct 28th – tingling feeling still present buttocks, genitals, thighs, ingrown hair on upper right mound. I exfoliated-bump went down. Cramping left side abdomen.

      Questions:
      1. Seen numerous nurses & none have said herpes even with my partners symptoms and even when seeing my bumps. Think a yeast infection that wont go away doesnt imply herpes. Does it?
      2. Tingling & sharp jabs herpes symptom?
      3. When all this started (Sept 3) tested neg for yeast, UTI etc. What else but herpes?

    • October 29, 2018 at 9:43 pm #27648
      Nervous128
      Spectator

      My vagina just still doesnt feel right and at this point I’m trying to resign myself to having herpes. My partners symptoms seem too coincidental and my problems just wont go away. Plan to test again at 12 weeks but wanted your insight.

      Also, forgot to add that on Sept 1st before the itchiness started my knee swelled up really bad and I had low back pain that Mon Sept 3rd the itching started.

      I’m checking myself everyday for bumps but it is havent seen anything besides what i listed here. It is the tingling and bugs crawling feeling that really has me worried too. Plus the feeling of being off down there. I want to trust all these nurses but I know it can show up in no classic ways.

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 3 months ago by Nervous128.
    • October 30, 2018 at 5:15 pm #27659
      Nervous128
      Spectator

      Looked tonight and that ingrown hair looks smaller and less hard under skin but significantly redder. I have been trying to exfoliate it but i dont see a hair there. I would try to get it swabbed but honestly I dont think my Dr will do it because I’ve been back so many times (2x) to them and (2x) to PP. And PP takes to long to get you in. I’m really at a loss.

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 3 months ago by Nervous128.
    • November 1, 2018 at 9:53 am #27706
      Terri Warren
      Keymaster

      The internal things like abnormal bleeding and abdominal cramping have nothing to do with herpes but I am concerned about your symptoms. Has you boyfriend been IgG test for HSV ? If not, that’s definitely the next step here. Do not decide this is herpes without evidence that it is. It could be bacterial or fungal. Let’s just keep working on finding out what is going on before jumping to a diagnosis.

      You need to get your boyfriend tested


      This is your final post on this subscription. If you have more questions, feel free to renew

      Terri

    • November 1, 2018 at 12:43 pm #27726
      Nervous128
      Spectator

      I purchased more questions. I’m trying to get him to go get tested. But because medical professionals keep telling me I dont have herpes he thinks I’m imagining it all. In fact, I think they think I am too. Do you suggest I do an IgG test at 12 weeks (which is about two weeks from now) or do the Western Blot test at 12 weeks? The white bump that nurse said was an ingrown hair on Oct 21st is still there. She said she saw a hair and tried to pick it out with tweezers.but still there Would a herpes reoccurrence stay around that long? Also my ingrown hair on right side of mound from Oct 28th is smaller again today but still there. How can I tell if it is an ingrown hair and nothing else? It feels like it is under the skin. Does the tingling and bugs crawling feeling on genitals and anus area happen with fungal or bacterial infections and stay around this long? I’m trying not to jump to conclusions but the longer it goes on the more worried I get. If it’s a yeast infection or bacterial I’ve never had anything like this in my life. Thanks for all your help.

    • November 1, 2018 at 12:48 pm #27727
      Nervous128
      Spectator

      My thighs and legs are tingling all over too. Mostly upper thighs but sometimes down into my calves.

    • November 1, 2018 at 12:54 pm #27728
      Nervous128
      Spectator

      How common is urethritis a symptom of herpes with no classic lesions of herpes? Could something else cause urinary issues?

    • November 4, 2018 at 7:35 am #27750
      Terri Warren
      Keymaster

      Herpes lesions would normally last 3 days to 3 weeks, at the most, and during that time they would change in appearance. I will tell you that the vast majority of the time when people have only tingling, they test negative for HSV by western blot. I know, you’ve also had a couple of lesions so that makes it a bit more complex. These issues are never just physical, there is an emotional component to this as well, and I think in your case, you need the best lab test to either confirm that you have herpes or put this to rest. I would recommend you obtain the western blot at 12 weeks out. And let that be your final thing you do to rule in or rule out herpes. And yes, urethritis sometimes accompanies a herpes outbreak.

      This is your final post on this subscription (you get three). If you have more questions, feel free to renew

      Terri

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