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January 13, 2015 at 3:21 am #2882
This is a long story, please bear with me.
I went to massage parlor at the end of October which I regret very much. There was handjob, kissing on breasts and fingering (by me). I cleaned my hands and that was it.
A week later I only noticed a small scab suddenly in the underside of penis (circumcised) morning, and its surrounding was red (looked like a red patch). There was another small scab a little further away, and two days later that scab got bigger and smaller scabs(dots) showed up in a line. I peeled them off in the shower accidentally, and there was red raw skin underneath. It turned white I believe and didn’t scab again. I went to the doctor that same day I discovered the scab and was told it was not herpes. The cell culture could not be done as they told me it was scabbing already. I even took pictures, and took it a different doctor and was told it did not look like herpes. That area was pink red for weeks and now its normal color.
Previously I did not have any sexual relationships, and earlier this year I was positive for hsv 1 (cold sore in lips) after encounter within two weeks. Since then there hasn’t been any sexual encounters. After a month of this encounter I took a blood test. I was positive for hsv 1 (>6) and positive for hsv 2 (1.85). It was negative when I last took a blood test in the summer (positive for hsv 1) thus I was scared.
Finally, two months post encounter, I took another IGG test the results came similar (hsv 1 >6 and hsv 2 1.87). If you notice there is a jump from 1.85 to 1.87. I have taken these two tests at the same place, and I decided to take another test somewhere else. I did not get the results, I was told by phone that I had hsv 1 and hsv (both high as they told me). I asked from the numbers, and they are:
hsv 1 8.00
hsv 2 3.1
I took this third test a week after the second test, and now I am seeing this big jump. The doctors are telling me I am positive for hsv 2, and no more tests are required. I have asked around online and they said something more happened at the massage parlor but this is what happened! There was a shower (full body),and after that she massaged me with a liquid (body lotion) and it was till finish. There was no unprotected oral otherwise I would have remembered it. I kept thinking if she did have sores, I would have had something on my fingers by now.
I know this is a long story, but I would be happy if this was read and understood. The question is: do I have herpes 1 or 2? I have pictures if needed. Thank you Terri.
- This topic was modified 8 years, 2 months ago by andy12345.
January 13, 2015 at 6:19 am #2889
I am not sure but it looks like I paid for the initial membership twice by accident. Terri, can you please confirm if that is the case since it says two invoices on my account?
January 13, 2015 at 3:29 pm #2906
Andy12345, I can only look at what set of questions we are on and it says you’ve paid for the first question and two follow ups. If you have something that says you’ve done that twice, I can check with the webmaster.
So you are likely positive for HSV 2. when an person as an index value between 1.1 an 3.5, we like to do a confirmatory test, so you can see that you are getting right up to the point of not needed confirmation of this result. If you had no symptoms at all, I would strongly suggest that you get confirmatory testing, but the scabs are really worrisome. On the other hand, if you have never had intercourse then I would still strongly suggest that you get a confirmatory test.
The experience that you had did not put you at risk for genital herpes. If you do have herpes, then I feel that it was acquired at some other time.
Can you tell me a bit about your sexual history? And where do you live? Would you be able to get a herpes western blot confirmatory test?
January 13, 2015 at 3:43 pm #2912
I live in texas, and I have arranged for a western blot test but I am waiting to take it next week as it will make it 10+ weeks post exposure.
I have not had any sexual contact since januaary(right after I started getting cold sores) and this massage parlor would be the only after this. I honestly don’t know what to believe since people say left and right that I have or do not have herpes based on the pictures,or I cannot get one from a massage parlor with the activities involved. I am nit sure why my antibodies jumped that much in a week, all I remember was I was sick in between those times with a little fever and chill. I still gave pictures if that would help.
January 13, 2015 at 4:07 pm #2920
This does not help me understand your overall sexual history.
I am not going to say that you do or do not have it without a western blot because your index value is in the low positive range and needs confirmation. If you have that many people telling you different things about whether you have herpes or not, you should likely settle on one source of information and go with it or you will be confused for a long time. The variation between those two index values is not huge. It is well within the normal range of variation in test results.
Glad you arranged to get a western blot.
January 13, 2015 at 4:45 pm #2927
I am not sure if the 9-10 weeks is enough for an accurate western blot test.
The thing is: if she did have sores or she was shedding down there, I would have gotten something on my fingers by now..but thankfully nothing happened.
I added pictures if you dont mind! I could not attach as the file size was too large!
day I noticed:
two days later:
The first two set of pictures is what I noticed when I woke up in the morning..I went to the STD clinic that day and they said it does not look like herpes to them..they swabbed but nothing came out according to them since it was scabbing.
The last two set is two days later..I noticed the small scabs.
I remember during this entire time (even before the week I had them) right when I was having the massage/rubbing I was sensitive to that area..I dont know if that is why this happened. Some people said the first two looked like sores, but if they are, why couldnt the std clinic do anything?
- This reply was modified 8 years, 2 months ago by andy12345.
January 13, 2015 at 4:49 pm #2929
These sores do look like herpes to me, Andy but without a swab test I could not be certain.
I feel that these pictures are consistent with your positive HSV 2 result.
Have you had intercourse in your lifetime? I’m having a hard time getting you to answer my question about your previous sexual history.
January 13, 2015 at 4:53 pm #2930
Yes I have had intercourse, but the last time In January(of last year), two weeks later I had cold sores on my lips. After that I did not have any sexual contact with anyone (I got scared about cold sores). This massage parlor was the only thing after at the end of October. I dont know, if this herpes 2, I am very depressed. I did not even have an intercourse yet I caught it.
I have not had any outbreaks down there after this.
January 13, 2015 at 5:06 pm #2931
I do not believe that you contracted herpes at this encounter! Did you not hear that or do you not believe me? I’m confused.
You could have had herpes for YEARS before you have your first recognized outbreak of herpes.
When you had intercourse in January, were you the giver of oral sex to that person as well?
January 13, 2015 at 5:20 pm #2932
I do believe you Terri, but why the hsv 2 showing positive after all this time.
I honestly do not remember if I gave oral, but I remember there was unprotected oral (to me) and unprotected intercourse. And I kissed her too. Two weeks later I got cold sores on my lips.
I remember I did give oral but it was not in January, much earlier. Then is this hsv 1? I was negative for 2 in June.
I even went to that parlor to find the girl that was with me but couldn’t find her since I forgot her name. All I was told was this was the first time someone like me came and complained.
January 13, 2015 at 5:24 pm #2933
OK, I missed the part about you were negative in June. So since June, you have had zero other sexual contacts of any kind? Are you absolutely certain that you were negative for HSV 2 in June?
January 13, 2015 at 5:35 pm #2934
Terri, yes I did not have any sort of sexual contact after June results or before June..the last contact was before I started having cold sores in my lips. I took that test as I usually take at the same place, the last test I took with the high numbers was from a different place.
I am really depressed if I do end up positive for hsv 2 from the massage parlor,I had a rough night and I made a mistake, but I did not think I will pay for my life. There was no unprotected contact (except for hand genital contact) and they are not known to do those.
I mentioned earlier that before this happened,even when I went to that parlor that area was sensitive and felt tingly/overly sensitive whenever rubbed. I don’t know if that is why this is happening.
January 13, 2015 at 6:03 pm #2935
I don’t know what is going on here but you do need a confirmatory western blot. Do you know how to get that?
I am not going to repeat a single time more that you did not get this at a massage parlor with the kind of contact that you had.
January 13, 2015 at 8:09 pm #2937
In that case, is 9 weeks enough from the incident? This happened at the very end of October (31st) and this week would be 9+ weeks. Is that enough time for an accurate result? The kit is already here but I am waiting longer since I read more time may be needed for better accuracy. I honestly will do it right away if it means I will get the right result and nothing false or indeterminate.
January 13, 2015 at 9:11 pm #2938
Yes, if your report of the incident is accurate, then you can test any time now. However, no one can promise there will be no indeterminates. There are actually quite a few lately in the low positive range.
One more question: how long before you tested in June was your last sexual contact?
We have exhausted all of your questions on the two subscriptions, Andy. If you have more questions, you will need to renew your membership of the first set of follow up questions.
- This reply was modified 8 years, 2 months ago by Terri Warren.
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