July 2, 2019 at 8:30 pm #40278
Hi, a little background information. I was infected with GHSV-1 in June of 2016 from oral sex from my ex boyfriend who was positive orally (has gotten cold sores his whole life). I tested positive for HSV1 by swab. My initial breakout was unilateral (right side) with 5-8 painful ulcers that scabbed about 2 weeks later, I also had one sore right at the middle/bottom of my vaginal opening. They were all white/yellow in colour during the ulcer stage, very similar to how canker sores look. After this I had some irritation, possibly extremely tiny pin size ulcers that popped up over the next month or two, only lasting a few days at a time, not painful just itchy, then nothing since.
Fast forward to now 3 years later – I have not had a recurrence that I know of, but I do frequently get yeast infections and who knows if maybe I just haven’t noticed the difference.
I have a new sexual partner currently and don’t know his hsv status but asked him if he was “clean” and he said yes. We’ve had unprotected sex 3 times now, over the course of the passed 5 weeks or so. The last time we had unprotected vaginal sex was June 20th. I do not know if he’s slept with other people in between hooking up with me, but I suspect it as it’s super casual. I had a Brazilian wax June 17th, and usually a week afterwards I start getting annoying ingrown hairs. So approximately June 27th I noticed what looked like an ingrown hair forming to the right of my clitoris (on the labia majora) and I reallyyy tried popping it and made it very swollen. I tried again the next day, and the day after that (convinced myself it was a cyst and obsessed over needing to pop it) ended up really irritating it and it’s been permanently swollen since, and is scabbed now. The swelling is almost gone today.
I got my period June 24th, it lasted a week, and 3 days ago got intense itching internally as it I was getting a yeast infection (as I often do around my period), plus what looks like a red, sort of raw spot of
July 2, 2019 at 8:40 pm #40279
skin, right below my vagina opening. I treated myself with oral canestan two days ago and the itching is gone today, but the irritated skin is still there. It’s not weeping, or ulcers, just dry and red. I went to a sexual health clinic today and she swabbed the scab to the right of my clitoris, but didn’t swab the skin below the opening. She said it was likely due to yeast infection on the skin, if I did have one. She swabbed my cervix for yeast, chlamydia, etc. She told me nothing looked anything like herpes to her but did it for my peace of mind. She also advised against testing for hsv in a blood test.
SO, I’m just wondering if you think any of these symptoms could possibly be a recurrence of my GHSV-1? I’ve never knowingly had a recurrence in 3 years, so I thought maybe I’d never have one.
Which makes me worried now that I have these symptoms, that this could possibly be a new primary outbreak of ghsv-2 from my new partner? If you contract ghsv2, after already having ghsv-1, can the outbreaks go unnoticed?
I’m worried that the swab will be inaccurate as there was no fluid to swab, and I’m really freaking myself out and feeling very alone in all of this.
Also, like I mentioned, we haven’t had sex since June 20th, is this outside of the incubation period for symptoms to show up?
I’m very at peace with my ghsv-1 cause of my understanding of how incredibly common it already is and the unlikelihood to transmit it. but absolutely terrified of ghsv-2, as I feel that’s an entirely different diagnosis with mandatory disclosure.
July 4, 2019 at 4:11 pm #40763Terri WarrenKeymaster
You are correct that HSV 1 and 2 in the genital area are very different diseases indeed. However, nothing you have described here really sounds like HSV 2 to me but it’s so difficult over the internet to try to sort this out. Unprotected intercourse is certainly a risk for herpes. Condoms reduce the risk of HSV 2 transmission by 96% so if you want to reduce the risk of acquiring HSV 2, please use condoms. When someone says they are “clean” who knows what that actually means? People might get tested for STD’s but herpes is often NOT included so who knows. Others might say they are “clean” and mean they have no symptoms. I would suggest here, given your concerns and sort of weird symptoms, that you obtain a herpes antibody IgG test and/or ask him to. Never IgM, only IgG.
July 4, 2019 at 4:44 pm #40769
If I obtain a blood test now, would it even be accurate? Since we’ve only been having sex for about 5 weeks? Even trickier since I only started having any symptoms of anything about a week ago (4 weeks post initial interaction).
It all seems so strange to me that herpes isn’t routinely tested for, it seems like everyone is just going around having sex and probably not knowing their status… I even have a friend of mine who slept with this same guy i did in the past couple months and she’s completely fine and definitely moved on with new partners. I don’t wanna day why me but it feels a little like that. (Even though I may not have hsv2 at all). If he did have ghsv2, I just feel like he would’ve given it to someone else by now and that I probably would’ve heard about it, as we work together and the area we live isn’t all that big. Just all strange to me.
Also just to clarify, if a person were to contract ghsv2 years after already having established ghsv1, would they still experience a “true primary outbreak” of ghsv2?
My primary outbreak of ghsv1 was very typical (full raised ulcers, weeping sores, then scans). And the symptoms I had this week were not typical at all, or at least nothing similar to my personal initial outbreak. Can someone’s herpes symptoms change appearance each time or are they generally the same?
I’m going to try to find somewhere to have the bloodwork done tomorrow, but I’m in Canada and the type-specific blood test is quite expensive. Do you think I should do a western blot? How do I go about this?
Finally, how common is genital hsv2 in the 20-35 age group?
July 7, 2019 at 6:39 am #40961Terri WarrenKeymaster
People can make antibody as early as a couple of weeks – half of those who are going to make antibody will do so within 3 weeks -but some take as long as 12 weeks and some are not picked up at all by the IgG test. it is way too early to waste your money testing. And if you are going to continue to have sex with this person, ask them to be tested for herpes since this is your concern here. This is YOUR vagina and YOU have ever right to ask someone to be tested. Asking someone if they are “clean” is not accurate always. If you are continuing to have sex with them, the timing is going to constantly rolling over, isn’t it?
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