August 11, 2015 at 4:29 am #8767
Exposure, mm with a male, then received unprotected oral and rimming, gave protected oral, then received protected anal. I think there was a brief moment when his penis brushed against mine during mm. All 9.5 weeks ago.
Two days later I had tingling and itching on my groin. Then over the first week I developed flu like symptoms, loss of energy, muscle pain, total loss of appetite, and shaking. Over the first two weeks the itching continued in three different locations on my groin along with flu symptoms. I was also constantly needing to urinate. Also for one day the tip of my penis was red and swollen. I didn’t notice any discharge or pain. My groin became tacky and waxy or leather like, and was constantly stuck to my thigh. That lasted for a week or so. I went to the gum centre at 1.5 weeks as I noticed a red boil on my bum, she looked at it and said it was an in growing hair. It disappeared after two or three days I think. It didn’t burst or crust over, just went away.
I went back after two weeks and got a full check up, negative for everything, which doesn’t include herpes, UK don’t cover that unless it’s a swab. They gave me a full visual check and said there was nothing to see. No rash or bumps or blisters.
At the end of the two week stage, I had pins and needles, tingling in the crease between my thigh and groin. It lasted about half a day, then reduced to a tingling sensation similar to stubble burn?? That sensation has lasted into week 7 almost constantly, and even half way through week 8, although I know I have had days were I’ve not noticed it.
I also noticed that a vein either side of my groin appeared swollen, I think this was at the same time I noticed the tacky feeling.
I’ve been to the gum 3 times, and seen my GP 3 times, but no one has seen anything that can help and all seem to be suggesting to just move on, as without any blisters for them to swab or see, they can’t test.
Blood test at
Hsv2 0.5 (this has me terrified, it seems like an extremely high negative)
Hsv2 under 0.5 (that’s how it was reported)
I’ve checked myself constantly and not seen a singie blister, rash or spot. Apart from the ‘boil’ in growing hair on my bum.
At the start of week 7 my face became itchy and tingly, around my lips and nose. I developed a sandpaper like area on my bottom lip, and spots on my top lip, which are white/yellow in colour which appear under the skin. I’m wondering fordyce spots for them? The itchy tingling continued through to 8.5 weeks, but never seen a cold sore.
The face irritation was like nothing I’ve ever experienced, tingling at different points on my lip, above my top lip and my nostrils. It was like a hot tingling irritation. The corners of my mouth were also irritated.
At 8.5 weeks I then had an irritation and itchy butt. It continued for a day or 2 before I had a good look in the mirror. Eventually I noticed a small cut in my anus, which was probably causing the irritation. Stingy at times. I continued to look and noticed a number of small spots slightly further in again, maybe 10-20, they are tiny. I’m not sure if there should be spots there? Hair follicles? They weren’t sore to touch. An irritation from poor cleaning? I also thought that my anus looked slightly swollen. There are no visible signs around my butt.
I managed to get a picture of these spots(horrible) as it is. But don’t know how to show you it.
The gp and gum persons appear to think it’s all anxiety and I need to move on, which is actually stopping me from wanting to go see them again. But having symptoms in three places doesn’t seem good to me.
Do any of these symptoms sound like herpes?
I think I’m at risk of hsv1 in all three areas, but what do you think about hsv2?
Any thoughts at all would be great, thank you.
August 12, 2015 at 8:27 am #8778
I think that there is a chance that you are HSV 1 positive, given your higher negative and the lack of sensitivity for HSV 1 with the screening tests. Only a western blot would clarify this for you and I don’t know of a place to get that in the UK. Even if your HSV 1 test was actually positive, you couldn’t know where they HSV 1 infection is or how long you have had it anyway, so it may not matter. I don’t believe that your sexual activity has placed you at risk for HSV 2 though. You were careful and that’s great.
I think you are clearly anxious about this, yes and you are observing so very carefully for any small change in your body. But the reality is that even with the best testing as I described above, you may not be able to get the information that you seek. I would say if you develop an actual lesion you should go in to be checked for that specific lesion.
August 18, 2015 at 4:00 am #8870
Thank you for your reply. On reading my results again I’ve noticed that I made a mistake, and both hsv1 results should read 0.08, not 0.8, as I previously stated.
How does this change your view on my sumituation?
I still continue to have irritation on the right side of my groin and towards the base of my penis, again on the right side. I think throughout the last ten weeks or so I’ve maybe had one or two days without irritation? I’m wondering if I’m causing an issue with all the continued checking, or if I’ve went from an initial ob into a second?
If I did have either hsv 1 or 2 in all three places, would ob’s happen at the same time, or at different times?
August 20, 2015 at 7:30 am #8891
Well, yes that changes it very much. That is a nice low negative indeed
If you did have herpes, it would be very unusual to have a completely negative antibody test at 8.5 weeks, no lesions, and continuous symptoms. None of that fits well with a herpes infection.
If you had HSV 1 and HSV 2 new infection, they could either happen at the same time or at different times. The whole thing seems unlikely to me.
August 30, 2015 at 2:49 am #9063
Hi Terri, thank you again for your reply.
I tested again at ten weeks, hsv1 was 0.03 and hsv2 under 0.5. I also managed to speak with the other person, who also decided to do a test after my concerns, pos hsv1, neg hsv2. They told me that to their knowledge they have never had a cold sore. I don’t know the numerical values, and won’t be able to get them now.
I suppose I’m wondering what your opinions are now in relation to my situation? Do my symptoms sound like herpes? I have read a few a lot on the Internet and it’s hard to work your way through what is fact or at least a credible source and what is not.
How long does it tend to take for hsv1 to become detectable? Is 16 weeks enough time or is it much longer?
Could I have passed hsv1 to different locations during my initial ob?
If I have hsv1 in two or even three locations, would ob happen at the same time?
If someone has oral hsv1 will the get it genitally? I’ve read that the chances a extremely long, but they always say with an established infection, what does that mean?
August 31, 2015 at 1:59 pm #9071
Wait your HSV 1 index value is very very low. I’m not understanding your concerns now about HSV 1. With the ELISA screening test, most people who are going to be positive will be positive at around 12 weeks. You are very close to that and you are completely negative so far. I think you should feel reassured by all of this negative testing.
September 20, 2015 at 4:10 am #9548
Thanks again for all your information. I’m still slightly concerned regarding possible genital hsv1 infection. I tiered using the anti-fungal cream given to me by the doctor, used it for two weeks, and it seemed to make a difference, but now I’ve stopped there is still irritation. I’m going to do another test this week, which will be 15 weeks.
1. Do you think that the anti-fungal cream could mask or reduce irritation caused by herpes?
2. I’ve read a few of your recent post, regarding the test accuracy or sensitivity for hsv1. You said rather than missing 1 in 10, it’s probably missing 2to3 in 10, or around 25%. I’m wondering is it the person or the individual test that these numbers refer to? What I mean is if a person tested 10 times, then the test will miss it 2-3 times. Or does the person fall into the 25% and will never test positive on that test.
3. Given all my negatives if the test at 15 weeks is negative too, could I be confident I’m negative?
4. Can you give any insight into your opinion on my previously given symptoms?
September 20, 2015 at 9:11 am #9550
No, the antifungal medicine would not help reduce symptoms of herpes, if that is what you are asking.
In my experience, once the screening test misses a positive HSV 1 infection it misses it every time after that.
You are negative for HSV 1 with about 75% certainty. It is so hard to know what to make of your symptoms because so many people have HSV 1 infection, I can’t know if what is happening is that or something else. Sorry I can’t be more clear for you!
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