› Forums › Herpes Questions › How can spouse be negative IGg and me positive IGg when he had the affair?
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July 22, 2015 at 10:52 am #8322IwanttoknowParticipant
In Feb. 2015 I broke out horribly and went to an urgent care as I was out of town. I had NEVER broken out like this before EVER. I had only yeast infections. The doctor at the urgent care there said I had herpes. She was sure. I have never stepped outside our marriage in 27 years so I knew something wasn’t right. My husband admitted to having two affairs (just one night stands). The second affair was in Feb. 2015 the same month I broke out. When I got back home, I had an Igm and an IGg test. I tested positive for IGg HSV 1 and 2. He tested negative IGg Hsv1 and 2 even after almost 6 months. How can this be? I do have other autoimmune illnesses like Sjogrens, Hashimotos and Rheumatoid Arthritis so I take a lot of medication. Since I broke out in the same month as the affair, this does not make sense. Probably the last time I slept with another guy was about 30 years ago. There is no way to contact the girl as he doesn’t know her name. Thank you for your assistance. (Igm on me was positive and him negative but I know that you really want to look at the IGg). Thank you again for letting me know how this could happen.
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July 23, 2015 at 11:24 am #8338Terri WarrenKeymaster
How long after the horrible outbreak did you get the IgG antibody test drawn? You said “when you got home” I don’t know what that means. Can you clarify please?
Terri
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July 24, 2015 at 2:45 pm #8385IwanttoknowParticipant
I got tested within a week to a week and a half.
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July 25, 2015 at 7:22 am #8398Terri WarrenKeymaster
It can take up to four months for herpes antibody to be developed. Usually it happens more quickly than that, but not within one week. So that suggests that you had established infection, not new infection. I hear that you have not had those symptoms before and have no explanation for why you might have had this bad outbreak, but antibody to IgG one week after having the outbreak again suggests established infection.
Looking at this in a slightly different way, if he had recently contracted HSV 2 with the affair, he could have transmitted to you before antibody was developed. But that isn’t what happened because you were positive right away and he is still negative, 6 months later, is all of that correct?
terri
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July 30, 2015 at 10:04 am #8547IwanttoknowParticipant
Yes, he had an affair two years ago. Full sexual contact intercourse. Perhaps I got it from her that time? Please advise.
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July 30, 2015 at 10:05 am #8548IwanttoknowParticipant
He had an affair two years ago maybe 2 1/2. It was full on intercourse. Perhaps I am registering positive due to that time. (I hope this last affair is last). Please advise.
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July 30, 2015 at 6:48 pm #8563Terri WarrenKeymaster
You would not have gotten it from here because he is negative, right? So that indicates that he did not get it from her so he couldn’t give it to you.
Terri
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July 31, 2015 at 10:05 am #8599IwanttoknowParticipant
We have been married 27 years. I had two babies and one miscarriage which is normal as I was using fertility drugs. How could we go this long with unprotected sex (seeing that he is negative and I am positive). I never broke out before he had the affairs and it is strange that it happened in the same month as his last affair. Also, if I have it, do I need to tell my kids so they won’t expose their future babies? One already had a baby. It is hard for me to believe that I got it over 30 years ago considering my autoimmune issues ie (Hashimotos, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Osteo Arthritis and Sjogrens). It is strange that I broke out in the same month that he had his last affair. If I am truly positive and him negative can we go on without unprotected sex since I would have caught this over 30 yeas agi? Personally, I think he brought it home on his penis and had sex with me but never broke out. Thank you for your help.
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July 31, 2015 at 12:30 pm #8603IwanttoknowParticipant
http://www.acog.org/Patients/FAQs/Genital-Herpes#how
This is information I found from the ACOG. I have highlighted areas that would help me address the questions on how my husband could have a Negative IGG and me a positive (after an affair on a 27 year marriage). Please see below:
ACOG – The American Congress of Obstetricians and GynecologistsThis is according to ACOG….How is genital herpes diagnosed?
Several tests can be used to diagnose herpes. The most accurate way is to obtain a sample from the sore and see if the virus grows in a special fluid. Test results may take about 1 week. A positive result confirms the diagnosis, BUT A NEGATIVE RESULT DOES NOT RULE IT OUT. Blood tests also can be helpful in some cases. These tests check for the antibodies that the body makes to fight the virus. This test can help show if it is a new infection or a repeat outbreak. –*Even a negative result on testing a sore does not rule it out according to the ACOG
*Blood tests can help show if it is a new infection or a repeat outbreak.
*I was told mine was a NEW INFECTION
Symptoms usually appear about 2–10 days after the herpes virus enters your body. You may feel like you have the flu.
*This makes sense considering the timeline of the affair, us having sex and me getting Herpes
The first bout with genital herpes may last 2–4 weeks.
*Mine lasted about 3-4 weeks (it was long) (I had NEVER had a break out before his affairWith these things in mind, it seems that even a negative IGG test does not rule Herpes out. Therefore he could lhave a negative IGG and I could be positive (which I am). This was a first time outbreak as the tests showed and I could have told them because I have NEVER broken out before. My breakout lasted 3-4 weeks. This is a 27 year marriage, wouldn’t he be positive if after all this time I am the one with Herpes? We always had unprotected sex because we were married. It seems to me there is much more to be researched in regard to this. Again, could he have a negative IGG and me be positive even with unprotected sex for 27 years (almost 28).? Perhaps he brought it home with him (like a shedder) and gave me this virus. Should I warn my kids they might have Herpes if I got it over 30 years ago? Your input is greatly appreciated.
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August 1, 2015 at 10:56 am #8616Terri WarrenKeymaster
I note that you have paid only for the first set of questions and you’ve gone beyond that. Please pay for a second set of questions. I formulated this response before I noticed that so I’ll go ahead and post it and trust you will renew as appropriate.
The traditional screening test for HSV 2 picks up 97 out of 100 cases, so yes, it is possible that he has it and the traditional screening test did not pick it up. the herpes western blot is about 2% more sensitive than the screening test. He could have that done and you could see. Our clinic can order that to be drawn at a lab near you.
With a positive IgG antibody test, it is not possible to know if this is new infection or not – do you recall why the said they were sure you had new infection?
It is certainly possible that you could be infected for 27 years and him not, yes. I see it regularly in couples. The transmission rate from a female to a male in year with no medicine and no condoms having sex twice a week is only 4% so you can see that it is pretty low.
Let me ask you this – what is the index value of your positive IgG test? And was a swab taken of the sores that you had as well as an antibody test? Could this be a misdiagnosis? Do you have recurrences?
Terri
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August 14, 2015 at 8:57 am #8817IwanttoknowParticipant
Hello:
I wanted to let you know that I tested for Herpes again after waiting six months. This time it came out negative on both Igm and Igg. My husband was negative as well after waiting six months. I must have got a false positive before. My HSV IGG Herpes Select is <0.91 on both HSV type 1 and HSV type 2. The Igm (which most people say is worthless anyway is Negative on both.
I paid the extra twenty just to let your patients know how important it is to be tested after six months. One question I do have is what it could have been? Right now I am assuming it was a very bad yeast infection as they tested one sore on my cervix in March and it came out positive for fungal infection (which they gave me medication for 1 pill Fluconazole. Your service has been extremely helpful. Thank you so much! -
August 14, 2015 at 12:37 pm #8820Terri WarrenKeymaster
I’m so glad this is cleared up for you and I so appreciate you following with up another post to let other readers know what’s going on with you. I’m surprised sometimes to hear how many people read old posts on here.
Thanks again.
Terri
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