January 8, 2022 at 3:48 pm #76134tuomaliParticipant
History – I dated a man from 2012-2014 with whom I did not have penetrative sex but activities were performed with at least my underwear on, sometimes shorts too. He used his hands, penis, and mouth to rub my vaginal area over my underwear. He also kissed with his mouth or touched with his hands my buttocks, thighs, back, etc. There were times while sleeping his penis would touch my bare legs b/c it slipped out his boxers. I tested negative on IgG tests for HSV 1,2 in 2012 and in 2015. The test in 2015 was performed at least six months after our last encounter, both values <0.10. I don’t know my partner’s HSV status; he had tested negative early on in the relationship but I do not know what kind of test it was.
Current partner has been with me monogamously since 2017, I’ve had no partners between them. He’s tested HSV1(+) and HSV2(-) on an IgG test four years ago, which were run at least 5 months after his last sexual activity with anyone else. Our sexual activity includes rubbing our genital areas together fully clothed, and kissing & touching my buttocks, legs, back, nipples with his mouth and bare hands.
So at the this point the only skin to skin contact (NO clothing, not even underwear) has been on my buttocks, thighs, nipples, face, not my actual vagina.
About 2.5 weeks ago I started experiencing a serious itch on my right buttock and hamstring area. The itch would come and go, tingle sometimes, but nothing would appear, no hives, just redness. It finally stopped about 1.5 weeks later. Then, two small patches of blisters resembling herpes showed up on my right buttock, just outside my panty line. I have a swollen lymph node on the right inside crease of my hip as well. Vagina seems fine, nothing weird showing up there. Just my right buttock.
My first doctor said it was classic shingles and offered a culture test. Having read about how inaccurate those are, I declined and requested a swab PCR test for HSV 1 and 2, but they didn’t have it. Went to a 2nd doctor, who said it could be either shingles or herpes and performed an Aptima swab of the lesions (without breaking any of them open though) for a DNA test for HSV 1,2. 3rd doctor I visited said it’s not likely shingles due to the small area affected. I asked for a swab PCR test of HSV1/2/Varicella, which was done today. He did break open several small blisters for swabbing, but said he had difficulty obtaining any fluid, and warned all could be (-) since this is day 8 of the lesions. I plan to wait 12-16 weeks before antibody tests. I did have chicken pox as a child. A week or two before the intense itching showed up, I went through a really stressful week with a lot of anxiety, not much eating, and lost several pounds.
I am still awaiting swab test results but am losing my mind over whether I contracted herpes through any of the activities in my past. I understand I could have contracted HSV1 orally from just kissing my current partner, which means I could test positive on an IgG test anyway. Is there anything else I can do in the meantime while I still have the (now 8-day old) lesions to try to positively identify what is going on on my right buttock? How confident can I be in the results of the pending tests, given how and when they were performed? Does shingles in fact show up in small patches on the butt? Could either HSV 1 or 2 be transmitted orally through saliva through underwear? Or from kissing a bare buttock?
Thank you in advance!
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January 11, 2022 at 2:30 pm #76167Terri WarrenKeymaster
If the skin of the buttocks was intake without any breaks, I do not believe that you were at risk of acquiring herpes from the activities in which you participated. You should get the PCR results very soon. There is nothing more that you can do now besides wait.
So to be clear – you had an Aptima swab done AND a PCR swab done? And you don’t have results of either yet?
January 12, 2022 at 5:17 pm #76193tuomaliParticipant
Yes – I saw three doctors and had two swab tests done. One was an Aptima swab on which HSV1,2 were tested via PCR (Labcorp test no. 188056), which has not come back yet. The other was a swab and PCR test for HSV1,2 and Varicella Zoster (Labcorp test no. 139367), which came back today. The results were:
VZV Realtime PCR – Positive Abnormal
Varicella Zoster Virus DNA detected.
HSV-1 DNA – Negative
HSV-2 DNA – Negative
So I guess it is shingles then. Surprising because I am only 33. My boyfriend suggested it may have been because of the COVID vaccine, of which I had two doses of Pfizer. Do you know anything about that? And can I get shingles more than once?
Some other general questions for future reference:
-Other than places like the mouth, nose, and genitals, must there be a break in the skin in order to transmit either HSV, even via asymptomatic shedding?
-If I have indeed contracted HSV-1 from my boyfriend via kissing (he’s positive for HSV1), but have never shown symptoms, is it likely that I could at some point in my life, or does lack of symptoms indicate I won’t experience them future either?
January 18, 2022 at 7:19 am #76224Terri WarrenKeymaster
Yes, in order to transmit, there must be a break in the skin in order to transmit in areas others than genitals, mouth, anus.
If you did get infected, yes, at some point, you could have an outbreak at some point in the future.
Good know the symptoms were due to shingles.
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