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December 17, 2015 at 8:21 pm #11009ready2move4wdParticipant
hello,
a little over two weeks ago i did an STD test, which included a blood test (IGG antibody type-specific) for hsv 1 and 2. my results were:
hsv1 4
hsv2 <0.9i was tested for everything (including H) in the beginning of june and everything came back negative. i’ve had unprotected sex with one guy this year (august) who i’ve also kissed several times (tongue), kissed another guy (a peck on the lips) in april and had protected sex/rec’vd unprotected oral last sep. i know it’s probably hard to pinpoint who gave this to me, so at this point i just want to come to peace with this and try to move forward w/o thinking my life is over and that no one will accept/love me.
someone suggested that i get the western blot for confirmation. with my IGG being a 4, is there any chance of this being a false positive? I know the range ends at 3.5, but it doesn’t hurt to ask. also, is it possible that i could have been infected from my encounter last sep or this past april, and the test for hsv1 be a false negative? any chance that the 2 negatives for hsv2 were/are false as well?
just a note, i have no hx of cold sores and have never had an outbreak on my lips or down below, so i don’t know where the virus is, which makes this even more nerve-breaking. my NP says i didn’t have to disclose, but i didn’t feel right not doing so.
i appreciate your time. thank you.
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December 18, 2015 at 10:43 am #11020Terri WarrenKeymaster
The ranges for concern about false positives is a bit different for HSV 1 than for HSV 2. In a study we just completed, everyone with an HSV 1 index value greater than 3 confirmed with western blot. So I seriously doubt that your HSV 1 index value of 4 would not confirm. And no, there is just no way to know, without a lesion somewhere, where the infection is on your body. Is is possible that you could have been infected through kissing or receiving oral sex. Both are risks for HSV 1 acquisition. If you want to do the western blot just to be sure we can order that for you but honestly I fear that would be a waste of your money.
Terri
- This reply was modified 7 years, 9 months ago by Terri Warren.
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December 18, 2015 at 10:53 am #11027ready2move4wdParticipant
Thank u. So I guess I won’t bother with the western blot.
What about my hsv1 being negative in June? Could that have been a false negative? Should I be concerned about my hsv2 results from June and November being false negatives? Is there any way to determine a timeframe of when I could have gotten this? I don’t know if I’ve asked more questions than allowed, but I can make an additional payment of need be.
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December 18, 2015 at 11:00 am #11033Terri WarrenKeymaster
Yes, that could certainly have been a false negative. Were two different labs used for the testing or the same lab for both? There is just no way to know when you acquired this infection, I’m sorry to say.
You have one more question to go after this.
Terri
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December 18, 2015 at 11:18 am #11038ready2move4wdParticipant
I went to the same place for the tests, so yes. What about my hsv2 results..both were negative in June and November. Should I retest? The person I’ve been dating all year, cut me off when I told him about my hsv1 results. We haven’t talked in two weeks. I doubly I’ll be sexually active or even kiss anyone for the next couple of years.
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December 19, 2015 at 8:27 am #11041Terri WarrenKeymaster
I don’t think you need to retest for the HSV 2, no.
The person who cut you off when you told him about the HSV 1 is a bit of a nit wit, sorry. More than half the population has HSV 1 so he may well have it and doesn’t know it. He could have at least tested to find out (though the screening test misses 1 out of 4 infections). And even if he tested negative the next person he’s going to run into has a better than 50-50 chance of being infected but since 70% of those infected with HSV 1 don’t know it, they may well infect him because they didn’t know it and did nothing to reduce transmission. If you decide to chose your partners based on their HSV 1 status, that’s a mighty limited population. Blow it off if you can.Terri
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December 28, 2015 at 12:09 am #11147ready2move4wdParticipant
Hi Terry,
I have paid for additional questions:
Not knowing whether I have hsv1 genitally or orally has been really getting to me. Before this year, I haven’t had a H test since 2012 or 2013. I have kissed a few guys since then and received oral 2 times since then (last year and this year). Also the guy I mentioned that stopped talking to me informed me that his H tests were negative. So now I’m thinking that the guy that gave me oral 9/2014 (who I’ve kissed as well), passed it on to me genitally b/c I do remember I got an UTI shortly after. I’ve read that an UTI is a sign of genital H.
1. Is it a strong possibility that the UTI was a sign/symptom of genital H?
2. In your experience, if someone acquired HSV1 later in life (I’ll be 30 next yr), w/ no outbreak (that I was able to recognize), what are the chances of it being one over the other? (More likely oral vs more likely genital).
3. Does an GHSV1 primary outbreak always occur? Sometimes I get a tingling sensation in my vaginal lips and lately my vaginal lips feel a little irritated. Prodomes I guess? But no sores/bumps pop up. CRazy part is that these sensations started right after my results came back and come and go.
4. My HSV IGG was 4. Does that mean anything? I see some IGG numbers as high as 60.
Thank you for your time.
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December 28, 2015 at 8:18 am #11155Terri WarrenKeymaster
1. Is it a strong possibility that the UTI was a sign/symptom of genital H?
Let me ask you a few questions about your UTI. Did you have the need to urinate more often? Were you peeing small amounts of urine often? Do you know if a urine culture was done and if it grew anything?
2. In your experience, if someone acquired HSV1 later in life (I’ll be 30 next yr), w/ no outbreak (that I was able to recognize), what are the chances of it being one over the other? (More likely oral vs more likely genital).
I don’t have that statistic.
3. Does an GHSV1 primary outbreak always occur? Sometimes I get a tingling sensation in my vaginal lips and lately my vaginal lips feel a little irritated. Prodomes I guess? But no sores/bumps pop up. CRazy part is that these sensations started right after my results came back and come and go.
I think your head is messing with you. I would say that many people have vaginal irritation and even tingling without herpes. without a specific oral or genital lesion we cannot know where your HSV 1 infection is located.
4. My HSV IGG was 4. Does that mean anything? I see some IGG numbers as high as 60.
Different tests have different normal ranges and test result ranges, so it’s hard for me to interpret for you. If you want a western blot just to be sure, I’m happy to arrange that for you.
Terri
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December 28, 2015 at 8:56 am #11156ready2move4wdParticipant
In regards to the UTI last year, I had those symptoms so I’m assuming the culture grew something since the OB/GYN gave me a rx. I did another UTI test a couple of weeks ago, but it was negative, which I’m sure means nothing if in fact it is genital. So does this mean it’s probably genital?
Is there a chance I may never have an outbreak, therefore not knowing where the outbreak is, so I should refrain from kissing, giving and receiving oral altogether? Or is not having an outbreak ever pretty rare? Is it “normal” or rare for someone to be get HSV1 with no primary outbreak?
You stated you doubt that my IGG of 4 is a false positive, I guess I’m just trying to decide if I should go on w/ WB for confirmation.
Please let me know if I need to pay before you answer these or any additional questions. Thank u.
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December 28, 2015 at 9:49 am #11159Terri WarrenKeymaster
The symptoms associated with a herpes infection that get confused with a UTI do NOT include frequency and urgency – those are bladder symptoms, not urethral symptoms so no, I certainly do not think your UTI was a herpes outbreak.
Yes, there is a chance you may never have an outbreak in any location – frustrating I know.
Yes, I doubt that the 4.0 is a false positive. But some people do the western blot because they just need a bit more confirmation when they are asymptomatic. Strictly your call.
You have one question left.
Terri
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December 28, 2015 at 11:31 am #11164ready2move4wdParticipant
I have a few more questions to ask, but will pay first then ask them.
For my last question, can you offer any advice/insight/suggestions to me or someone in my position?
I know I need to relax and that it’s “not a big deal”, but I’m concerned about giving this to someone else, especially since I don’t know if it’s oral or genital.
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December 28, 2015 at 2:34 pm #11172Terri WarrenKeymaster
HSV 1 without a known site is a bit tricky. If I was in your situation before having sex with someone, I personally would say that I tested positive for HSV 1, I have never had an outbreak, the statistically likelihood is that it is oral, but you’ve never had a cold sore. Have they ever had a cold sore in their lifetime? Have they ever been tested for HSV 1? If they are positive (or agree to be tested and are found to be positive), then they are not at risk from you regardless of the site of infection.
Terri
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