April 3, 2020 at 9:15 am #69788
My story: I had sex with my partner January 31. The next day (Feb 1) I started to experienced painful urination, walking/ sitting made my vagina hurt, and discharged that saturated my underwear. I checked myself and didn’t notice any blisters, no open areas. I quickly made an online appointment with my OBGYN for that Monday, Feb 2nd.
My appointment couldn’t come any quicker! I was in so much pain “down there.” She instantly looked at my vagina & said, “Yup, it’s herpes. I’m going to swab and draw blood to confirm but I’m pretty sure that’s what it is.” She gave me Valtrex, we set an appointment for a week later to discuss results, & sent me on my way.
HSV 1 and 2-Spec Ab, IgG w/Rfx
HSV 1 IgG, Type Spec: <0.91
HSV 2 IgG, Type Spec: 1.29 High
HSV-2 IgG Supplemental Test: Positive
NuSwab Vaginitis Plus (VG+)
everything negative besides Megasphaera 1 (high)
(common for me to have BV)
My dx day: I was told that my swab was negative but that didn’t matter cause my body had antibodies of the virus which meant I was exposed and now I’m herpes positive.
I’m doing my research and find out different information and decided to reach out to my OBGYN about different information I picked up. I told her of me being a possible false positive, information provided by the CDC, and other different test options.
Her words: There is no such thing as a “false positive.” How could a virus be in someone’s body without any type of exposure. I can treat my status as negative if I want to but that would be unethical of me, it is common to have and I have to accept it as reality. The certain test that was used (through LabCorp) showed I was positive with my results and different labs have different ranges. And I was on the high end of it. She states the CDC has it’s own numbers. Only reason why my swab came back negative is because we were probably out of time range.
Is my case a possible neg?
April 9, 2020 at 4:40 pm #69825
Well, there is some information I don’t have here. first, has your partner been tested and are they positive for HSV 2? That’s important to know. When was the last time you had sex with your partner prior to January 31st? Have you had a subsequent HSV 2 IgG test? If not, you should and see what’s happening with the index value. It’s too bad that she did an old-style culture – the PCR would have been a far better choice. I would be happy to reference the papers and the CDC guidance about false positives in the low positive range. You are definitely not on the high end of any test reference range – you are just over the positive value. The CDC does not have any numbers of their own – they cite the usually used tests in the community. Out of time range? You came in the day after you started having symptoms, right? Sometimes what I hear from the medical community providers makes me want to tear my hair out, I swear.
I would advise that you order yourself another IgG test and see what the index value shows and also your partner should get tested. When was the last time you had sex with someone different and when was the last time for your partner?
Does your partner give you oral sex? Have they ever had a cold sore?
April 19, 2020 at 10:11 am #69935
I came in two days after my symptoms because it occurred over the weekend. Monday was the next available appt.
My knowledge: My last partner before this episode was September 2019. My current partner I assume we were are only partners and when asked about STD hx I was told none.
Are you able to get an subsequent test order for me or just the western blot? I’ve made an OBGYN appointment since this my last post & my provider said you are providing false hope & their are other websites that do the same. So we didn’t do another test. She also said my supplement testing was positive (Explained that when Lab Corp receives a low positive it’s triggers a supplement test which I tested positive for = confirming my TRUE positive) How true is that?
My other questions:
Have you ever had similar cases like mine that were negative? (Low positive with a positive supplement who was negative?)
Since time has elapsed wouldn’t we expect a decrease in IGG being their is no longer an active outbreak? Therefore giving me a false negative? How should we see an increase?
Can you break down why would a test show positive if it’s negative? I’m a healthcare worker & I understand the presence of antibodies means exposure so how can one not have it if antibiotics appear?
I really want to avoid ordering the western blot test because I don’t have the money. I’ve google clinics in my area that I can retest around me do you recommend?
Also, I read up about a pharmaceutical company having an cure, but not approved by the FDA. Do you believe their will be a cure soon to give this population hope?
I’m embarrassed & hopeless because I felt like I’ve always been selective about my partners & who I give myself up to. Extremely confused.
April 19, 2020 at 10:26 am #69937
I have some typos sorry!
Should say Can you break down why would a test show positive if it’s negative? I’m a healthcare worker & I understand the presence of antibodies means exposure so how can one not have it if antibodies appear?
Should say Since time has elapsed wouldn’t we expect a decrease in IGG being their is no longer an active outbreak? Therefore giving me a false negative?
April 19, 2020 at 12:44 pm #69969
YOu do not need a provider order to get another IgG test – you can order that yourself through any number of online testing services and they all use major reliable labs to do the testing. I would advise that you do that.
Yes, LabCorp does confirmatory testing (if the provider requests it) for low positives, but I have seen confirmatory tests be positive and western blot negative so although it is useful information, it is not definitive.
Your symptoms truly do sound herpetic but we don’t know for sure AND we don’t know the type for sure. Your partner needs testing, you need a follow-up test and for now, I think the IgG would be fine for that.
Some people have a protein in their blood that is the same molecular weight as one of the herpes antibody proteins and can trip the IgG test falsely. The literature documents this fully. If people are infected, the virus is active quite often, even if no sores appear and so the body’s immune system continues to produce antibodies (IgG). An outbreak is not necessary for this to happen.
April 19, 2020 at 2:47 pm #69978
Thank you. I have a another appointment tomorrow to draw blood. Depending on those results, I am going to follow up with you with the western bolt test. Is there a possibility that my insurance will cover it?
When the new numbers come in, should I see an increase or decrease if it is a true positive?
April 29, 2020 at 1:50 pm #70039
You should have seen a significant increase in the index value, yes.
The University does not bill insurance out of Washington state for the blot, no, sorry
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