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PIV without a condom

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  • This topic has 3 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 4 months, 1 week ago by Terri Warren.
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    • September 21, 2022 at 3:05 pm #78844
      ggpp
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      Hi Terri.

      I am a male, and have had HSV-2 since 1987.

      I have not had a outbreak since 2018 at least, maybe even longer ago.

      I take Valacyclovir twice daily.

      My partner has the antibodies for HSV-1 but has never had an outbreak. She does not have the antibodies for HSV-2.

      We are very disciplined about not having sex if I am feeling at all concerned.

      We are considering not using condom for PIV. I am curious to hear your thoughts on that. What can we do to make transmission as unlikely as possible? What level of risk would you assign to this situation?

      Would doing a swab test to get a baseline understanding of my shedding be a useful thing to know?

      Any other considerations?

      Thank you so much for this forum and the work to do to help folks like me!

    • September 30, 2022 at 5:43 am #78894
      Terri Warren
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      I would say that if you are on acyclovir twice a day, the approximate risk of transmission to your partner is about 5% in a year – that is, about 5 women out of 100 will become infected having sex about twice per week without a condom. You could do some daily home swabbing, but I think you would need to do it about three months for any accuracy and that is spendy.

      Terri

    • November 11, 2022 at 2:07 pm #79384
      ggpp
      Participant

      Thanks for the reply.

      We want to get a little more information to be as clear as we can about the risks/benefits of anti-virals and condoms. Can you tell us the transmission rate for HSV 2 for:
      -No anti-viral, no condom
      -Anti-viral 2x/day no condom
      -Anti-viral 2x/day, condom

      Also my female partner has the antibodies for HSV 1. She has never had a breakout from it. How does this affect our situation?

      Is she likely to have less severe outbreaks if she contracts HSV2?

      Thank you!

    • November 16, 2022 at 7:44 am #79436
      Terri Warren
      Keymaster

      These are averages and come from research into couples who’ve been together for a while.
      No antiviral, no condom – abou9t 10% per year
      Antiviral, no condom, – about 5% per year
      Antiviral, condoms – about 2% per year.

      These are all averages – some studies show higher rates, some much lower.

      If your partner contracts HSV 2, with her HSV 1 antibody, she may never had symptoms or her symptoms could be quite mild, correct.

      Terri

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