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September 28, 2023 at 2:59 pm #82971RonnywhiteParticipant
My story is unusual. Developed HSV2 three years ago. First outbreak was 4 months. Then it went away for 2 months, then was present for 3 weeks, went away again for 2 months and then returned where outbreaks last a month with maybe 3 days between ever since. Diagnosis was hard since the first swabs were negative. Doc told me it was HSV. He said nothing else causes repetitive sores and rashes in the genital region. I wanted confirmation. Quest Igg test x 3 was negative. Western blot at 7 and 12 months was negative. This was unusual because I thought I have has hsv1 orally. I only took valtrex for 2 weeks during the first year and so it should not have affected the testing. In year two, I took valtrex almost the whole time. It didn’t change much, symptoms were maybe 30% better but had near constant outbreaks with 2-4 days between them. I wanted confirmation, so they gave me daily swabs and one came back positive for hsv2. The doc said that this is 100% accurate and that nothing else causing symptoms like I have except a herpetic disease. I am now going into year 4 and I have symptoms 90% of the time such as burning, itching pain. Sores occur mainly in the buttock and anal area and resolve within a few days. Doc says hsv can cause weird symptoms. My questions are short
1. Have you ever heard of such symptoms in your practice?
2. I could only find one study in 1988 comparing the Blot to known positive patients, and it only included just over 100 patients. There are tons of studies where the blot is the standard but Are there any other studies confirming the blot’s accuracy and can you list them please.
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October 8, 2023 at 12:48 pm #83028Terri WarrenKeymaster
Herpes symptoms don’t last for months at a time. It is interesting that the blot was negative but you had a positive swab test. Have you had a positive swab from one of the buttocks lesions?
So to be clear, you had a positive swab test while on suppressive therapy?
Did you have sex at any point between the negative blot and the positive swab test?
To find information about the western blot, you can go to PubMed and put in herpes western blot in the search area. I’ll let you do that.Terri
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October 13, 2023 at 2:49 pm #83093RonnywhiteParticipant
The positive swab was during a period that I was off valtrex. They gave me a bunch of swabs. It was from the crease between my buttock and my leg since that is where I get the lesions. I have tested negative for antibodies as stated above and I did not use valtrex during that time. The infectious disease doctor said that no antibody test is 100% accurate. The only paper that I could find on the western blot versus known positive patients is “Comparison of Western blot (immunoblot) and glycoprotein G-specific immunodot enzyme assay for detecting antibodies to herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2 in human sera” from 1988. Can you site any other papers? I’m sure that the western blot is the best that we have at this time but I think most of us on this forum would appreciate if you could ask your friends at the university of Washington for more clarification. Thanks
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October 14, 2023 at 1:53 pm #83108Terri WarrenKeymaster
Since there is no known better antibody test, that’s a challenge. We do know that people who take suppression at the beginning of being infected with HSV can continue to get negative antibody tests. What is your situation with taking suppressive therapy as it relates to when you first got infected?
The western blot folks have never said the test picks up every infection – I’ve had 10 patients who had positive swabs and negative WB. But that’s after running thousands of blots over my 41 years in practice.
Terri
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