September 7, 2020 at 4:04 pm #71157
On the 2 September 2020 I had an unprotected outercourse with a sex worker (who claimed to be STI free). 3 and a half to 4 days later I started getting a burning sensation in the tip of my penis which on day 6 still hurts somewhat. The pain goes up and down and sometimes it hurts very badly and sometimes it doesn’t at all or very minor. Other than that I have felt a lot of itching in the pubic/anal area, a bit of fatigue/nausea and light sensitivity. Could you please advise me on how transmissible herpesis based on what happened:
1) The sex worker sat on and smothered my face with panties on. Her ass was quite large due to being overweight.
2)I had a hand job and had mammary intercourse with her. What is the risk of genital herpes being transmitted from her hand/breasts
3) When putting on a condom she used her mouth to put it on. What is the risk of oral herpes being transmitted to my genitals from this.
4) After deciding not to use a condom I she lied down on her stomach and I thrusted/slid my penis through her naked bum crack like in the link below except I was straddling her legs and went from the other side.
5) I stood against a wall and she pushed her naked bum against my naked penis.
6) She lied down on her stomach and I thrust my naked penis into her naked upper thighs.
7? I kissed her mouth, kissed/licked her stomach, kissed and sucked her breasts. She was an overweight woman and lifted up her hanging stomach and banged it on my face as well as smothered me with it.
7) At the end of the session she said I actually made her vagina wet. I am very worried if the vaginal wetness got on me in some way (very unlikely though) I could have got herpes from that.
8) Overall how worried should I be? I am seeing someone at the moment and I do not want to give anything to them.
9) Should I look at getting a herpes antibody test?
September 9, 2020 at 10:04 am #71165
Sorry I didn’t add this before. When kissing the sex worker tongue was used. I also kissed/licked her butt cheeks. Now 7 and a half days later I have a funny sensations on a little spot on my upper lip. Is this a sign that I have oral herpes? It turns out my mum is HSV1 positive so there is a chance I already have it but I have never had cold sores (or at least I don’t remember having any). As I said before though my mouth or penis did not come into contact with her anus or vulva/vagina.
September 11, 2020 at 1:12 am #71172
Sorry to post too much but I feel I need to add this. I have been tested for uti, chlamydia and gonarrea and they have all come back negative. My doctor inspected me and as at day 8 from the encounter I have no sores, swollen lymph nodes or anything like that. I have some on and off itchiness (i get jock itch regularly so it may not be related) and pain at the top of my penis (since day 4 to this post) which sometimes is a dull ache and other times hurts quite a bit. I have also felt jelly legged at times and weird sensations in my pubic and hip flexor area. At this point i feel like herpes is the only thing it can be. I am just praying it isn’t. Also I forgot to mention when I was pressed against the wall by the sex worker they grinded their butt crack against my unprotected penis. But as I said before our genitals (vagina or anus did not touch) she claimed to be std free and have no symptoms.
Very sorry to spam you with long posts but the anxiety is killing me right now. I can’t concentrate at work or sleep properly for the last week or so.
September 13, 2020 at 7:29 am #71214
I feel like I answered this question already – perhaps on the ASHA site? All of this is extremely low risk
September 19, 2020 at 6:34 pm #71276
Thankyou for your support Terri. On the whole I feel much better about the scenario. I went to a doctor in person and they said I had epididymitis and prescribed me alprim for a couple of weeks. It has now been 18 days and the pain in my penis tip has gone down but there are still slight irritated sensations there. I still have no sores or blisters or bumps which is good.
There is one thing that has got me quite worried though. The sex worker I saw makes pornography clips and on a couple of pornography clips she posted 4 days after seeing me there was a large visible rash on her bottom and left inner thigh (on the right of screen). I did not see her from the front naked very much so I might have missed it. Basically I am very concerned I may have come into contact with an active herpes outbreak without a condom as with the intercrucal sex my penis would have touched the rash. I have linked the clips in a dropbox link called herpes concern above. Please understand I am not trying to be disgusting or to make a rude and disgusting joke. I am just genuinely worried if I came into contact with it.
Do the rashes on her bottom and inner thigh look herpetic?
If I came into contact with them without protection does it raise the risk profile of what happened significantly?
At what point should I let this go? How many days without sores/lesions would be ok to stop worrying? I have heard herpes can manifest up to 3 weeks.
Thankyou so much Terri I really appreciate your service. Your first response on ask the experts helped my anxiety greatly.
September 19, 2020 at 6:44 pm #71277
September 20, 2020 at 1:42 am #71279
I’d just like to add on the 20 September 2020 (18 days after) the burning sensation in my penis came back but got better later on. I also took my temperature at 6pm and it was 37.4c which I think is a low grade fever.
September 21, 2020 at 5:51 am #71284
Very sorry to be so annoying. I was having a look at my penis today (day 19 after exposure) and I found a very small strange bump. I am not sure whether it is herpes or not I have linked a dropbox link with a few photos. Also earlier today I had strong penis pain which subsided as well as feeling nauseated at times and felt funny feelings in my throat. feeling fatigued and feeling hot.
Am I overreacting?
Is there any real reason to be concerned?
The relationship with a girl I’m dating looks to be heading sexual very soon. Should I hold off or do you think based on what I have told you I would not be infected to spread it to anyone?
- This reply was modified 2 months ago by Terri Warren.
September 21, 2020 at 6:14 am #71285
Sorry I forgot to add this to my prior post. On dayI also felt lower back pain, butterflies/sensatations in my stomach and sensations/pain on my sides where my kidneys roughly are maybe a bit higher or lower.
September 23, 2020 at 6:02 pm #71294
Please ignore my posts on the 19 September 2020. I am sorry I now realize it was inappropriate to post that. I am sorry. Could you still please look at the pictures of the bump on my penis to see if it looks like herpes. My doctor said it looks very low chance to be herpes. Thankyou for your patience my anxiety is insanely high over this. I have not slept properly in 3 or 4 days or eaten properly from the anxiety.
September 30, 2020 at 10:20 am #71342
Nothing I see in any of the photos (and I have deleted the links) looks like herpes to me. I think you should follow the advicee of the physican who has seen you in person. And if you are still worried, you could obtain a herpes western blot for greater clarity, or even an IgG test.
October 14, 2020 at 6:24 am #71449
Hi Terri. I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is I got a swab on both that bump under my foreskin and the inside of my urethra and both came back negative for all forms of herpes.
Now for the bad news a few days ago I noticed a couple of bumps on my penis. When I went to the doctor yesturday I forgot to bring them up and he didn’t mention them when looking at my penis. I have emailed you some photos. Please note these photos were taken on 10 October 2020. Do anything in the pictures look like herpes?
In spite of my risk being very, very low I am still somewhat unsure. I am worried I may have touched her anus, genitals or perianal area despite logically I know it was unlikely and she said I didn’t (I asked her a week later). That and I saw a video of her a few days after my session with her where she had a skin rash on her left thigh. 3 weeks later I asked about it and she said it was a heat rash that goes away in 1 to 2 days and she said she had no rashes or sores or blisters in any areas we came into contact with during our session.
In spite of these symptoms not being consistent with herpes I am still worried abouthow pain in the tip of my urethra went up and down and waxed and waned from quite painful to minor to almost non-existant and for a week or 2 weeks and has then come and gone ocasionally until now.
Bottom line is I would like 100% conclusive evidence I don’t have herpes. How would I go about getting a Western Blot done from Australia and how long after exposure until it would be 100% accurate?
I’d really like to definitively put this behind me. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
Thanks again Terri. I may have said this before but I cannot thankyou enough for the advice and support on both here and the ASHA you have given me. If it wasn’t for your advice I would probably be a total nervous wreck.
Other than that I’ll look to get a prostate exam soon.
October 14, 2020 at 6:38 am #71450
I emailed them to the paypal address sorry if that was the wrong thing to do.
Ps I hope this post doesn’t count as a follow up question.
October 15, 2020 at 5:55 am #71456
I have some bad news. My doctor messed up my urethra swab results for herpes. They mixed them up with my gono swab results (which I was negative for). I now get them back tomorrow.
October 17, 2020 at 2:54 pm #71480
I agree that none of these symptoms sound like herpes to me AND again, your risk was just not there.
I’m guessing that you have your results by now but you are currently out of posts. If your swab for herpes was negative, I so hope you can put this worry aside.
You are now 6 weeks out from the encounter that concerned you. If you want to do an IgG test now, it would be 70% accurate, if negative – that is, if negative, there is a 70% chance it will stay that way. However, given your experience, I think you could count on that as a final result.
October 28, 2020 at 6:41 am #71564
Hi again Terri. All my swab results have come back negative. I ended up getting another swab as the pain came back over the most recent Sunday. In total that is 4 negative swabs. I thought of requesting a 5th but I didn’t as I doubt it would have answered anything for me. To finally shed some light on it I am finally getting at igg (wish me luck).
With no real answer this penis pain is really starting to bum me out. One thing I have noticed is it seems to recur every 2 weeks appoximately.
When I saw the doctor on sunday they said my uretheral opening looked inflamed when I opened it. But when I saw another dr for the results today (the one I saw first was away) they said everything looked normal. The weird thing is the pain was somewhat worse yesturday than when it was swabbed on sunday and the pain was still on and off today with slight discomfort urinating a few times but not everytime. So I am not sure how it can be normal in spite of the symptoms. In the end I was prescribed doxycycline for non specific ureritis.
I have another exposure question. I did not have oral sex nor did she lick my penis (she said she wouldn’t do this without a condom on). Say if she kissed my penis a few times or touched the tip of her tongue to my penis or just her lips touched my penis somehow would that be a high risk of hsv1? I am somewhat confident no oral genital contact was made at all. But since I couldn’t see what she was doing while she was facesitting me I thought I’d ask the risk to be sure.
Also I found out my mum had antibodies for hsv1 in a blood test a very long time ago, like 20 plus years ago. I don’t know whether it was igm or igg but she has never had a cold sore in her life. Is it possible I already have hsv1 then? I have never been tested before and have never had a cold sore so I don’t know.
On the whole I am feeling much better about it but will be 100% when the 12 week test comes back all good.
Again I cannot thankyou enough Terri.
October 30, 2020 at 6:30 pm #71594
None of what you describe is a risk for herpes, no. Not enough contact. I hope that doing the IGG will bring you some peace of mind.
November 3, 2020 at 11:51 am #71637
Hello Terri. I’ve got some good news. My 8 week igg came back negative for both HSV1 and HSV2. Also all my uretheral swabs have come back negative.
I can confirm there was no mouth/tongue contact with my penis without a condom on. I am reasonably confident there was no oral contact at all. But before I eliminate the HSV1 risk in my head I’d like to ask a few questions.
Hypothetically if she licked/kissed/sucked my balls/scrotum even with a cold sore what is the risk of HSV1 transmission? What about oral contact with a cold sore on other parts of pubic and anal area? I am confident none of these things happened but I am a bit concerned that she may have done these things while facesitting me and I didn’t realise.
Do you think an escort would be smart enough not to do those kind of things if they have a cold sore? Is a cold sore easy to spot on someone? To be honest I didn’t know what a cold sore looked like until this whole herpes scare. She was wearing make up and the room was dimly light so I’m worried I might have missed something, particularly since I didn’t know what they looked like at the time.
My GP thorougly checked my genital and anal area for sores/lesions 6 days, 13 days and 23 days post encounter and found none. Also checked groin lymph nodes on days 6 and 13 for swelling and they were normal. The only place he didn’t check for sores is uretheral opening (ie we didn’t open the meatus to look inside). I checked my temperature 4 days after and it was normal but I didn’t check again. I also did not see any penile discharge. Is this good evidence against any HSV infection?
At this point I am not super worried about HSV2, but I am still a bit concerned about HSV1 though.
I might look to get a Western Blot to be 100% sure. Would a blot at 12 weeks be conclusive?
Sorry for the long post.
November 4, 2020 at 2:52 am #71638
One more question. I asked the csw I saw if there was any oral contact on my lower body and she said no (with the exception of putting on the condom with her mouth). Given the encounter was 9 weeks ago do you think I can trust what she said. Does this mean I can stop worrying about HSV1 in my genitals? I would think everybody would think their genitals etc are in the lower body. I know I am overthinking it but I am honestly very worried since I am HSV1 negative I can get a oral genital infection.
It really worried me when she said oral herpes as in cold sores are different from genital herpes.
November 5, 2020 at 4:00 pm #71652
Cold sores are different than genital herpes but the cold sore virus can be transmitted to the genitals by giving oral sex.
I forget – did you have a western blot to know that you are truly HSV 1 negative? The IgG test misses 30% of HSV 1 infections.
November 9, 2020 at 3:25 pm #71723
I got an IgG test. However, I’ll get a western blot next month.I found a place in Sydney that does them.
Would 13 or 14 weeks be conclusive for a western blot?
At this stage I’m not very concerned about hsv2. I am a little worried about genital hsv1 though. She said there was no oral contact below my waist so I don’t feel I should be too concerned. However say if she had a cold sore and kissed my penis or something very quick would that be likely to transmit hsv1? She did not give me oral sex ie no bj or licking.
Given what I have told you if my western blot is positive for hsv1 could I safely say it is an oral infection?
By the way I have never had oral sex or anything like that in my life.
November 11, 2020 at 5:49 am #71745
I’m glad you were able to identify a location in Sydney that actually does do the western blot. I would be certain that it is not the immunoblot. If you do find a place that does the western blot, can you please post it here? There are many people from Australia who look for the blot and your source would be helpful.
A quick kiss of the penis would likely NOT transmit HSV 1 to you. Without her giving you oral sex, the risk of you having HSV 1 genitally is very very low – I just don’t see how it would get there.
If you test positive for HSV 1 then I do think it would almost certainly be oral, not genital. Your sexual history just doesn’t fit with genital HSV 1 (or HSV 2 for that matter).
And 13 weeks is plenty of time to have waited
- This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by Terri Warren.
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