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Thank you for confirming the seroconversion time frame. I’ve since spoken to him and things are okay. I appreciate you telling me the normality of someone whose newly having sex with someone whose infected being scared often despite acceptance. Makes complete sense but I think because those of us who are and go through the emotional stages of disclosing and educating that we can forget what it feels like to the person on the other side of things even if they’ve accepted it etc.. There’s a lot to deal with and I appreciate you getting me to recognize that again. We’ll see where it goes from here. Thanks so much!
Thank you for the information and offer to have a phone consultation. I may need it after all that’s said and done. HA! At least I’m laughing. Yesterday was tough. The person I speak of through out this thread told me on Friday when we visited that he wasn’t feeling well but he still came over anyways. He complained of a sore throat and feeling worn down. He’s a firefighter so his shifts are long plus with two kids and an ex that has been causing him stress lately he’s already dealing with a lot. We’ve used precautions (condoms, meds etc.) whenever we have been intimate. He went down on me Friday however with no dam but again I’m on suppressive meds and have HSV-2 genital. Yes we spoke of all the risks involved and we were never intimate btw before I disclosed. Its unfortunate though because even with all the education and the talks we’ve had I’ve learned he hasn’t accepted the risk because yesterday he told me his throat was worse after his shift and he complained of white spots on his throat, tender lymph nodes and a general feeling of malaise. He immediately thought he had “throat” herpes. We haven’t been seeing one another for that long just maybe a month with only being able to get together once a week due to our schedules etc. so our time together has been limited. I told him that he should get tested soon so that we would have a base line to work from. I then told him that should the test come back positive it would show that he acquired herpes before meeting me even though we’ve been intimate because it typically takes 12-16 weeks to get a good reading on an IgG test due to seroconversion . I also told him to contact as I suggested and told him before the University of Washington Virology clinic so he could get a medical professionals insight/advice. In addition I said that the symptoms he spoke of didn’t sound like herpes symptoms. I’m just sad as I like him a lot, care for him and his well-being. Do you have any advice for a worried partner?
So with Oral HSV-2 transmission its unlikely transmission would occur because its rare and the virus doesn’t like the mouth? Genital to genital would be more likely. He has yet to be tested and he is unclear if he’s ever been tested for herpes. So, if he already has HSV-1 oral he can acquire HSV-2 oral too? Should that be the case it would be asymptomatic if he has oral HSV-1 already and acquires HSV-2 oral? Does HSV-2 oral usually have an initial outbreak and then nothing after? I’m a bit confused as I never knew you could acquire both orally, thanks!
Very interesting about the outbreaks. That sounds like a good thing at least in terms of the virus. If need be yes a phone consult might be good. What fee would be involved? Would insurance cover it by chance or no? Thanks so much for your help.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by KRGus.
Thank you for that. I had a very long talk yesterday with the person I speak of above and it went well. We are continuing to see each other. I do have a couple more questions and I have paid for more just an FYI to you. 🙂 I am wondering about HSV-2 transmission orally i.e he gives me oral. I realize this is rare and I don’t believe there is research data on this, but would you say its about as likely as genital to genital with meds etc.? Also, he has two children and he was concerned if he ever got it orally what impact that would have as he and his daughter in particular peck each other on the lips. Because it sheds so little I would say its pretty rare it would transmit? Lastly, I’m quite frustrated with the imaging portrayed of herpes especially when you google it. He had googled it after I told him not to and saw the images and many of which I even wonder what they are. Though I know some cases can be severe what is percentage of those cases? I told him for most people the symptoms are so miner that its often misdiagnosed etc. or there are no symptoms at all and it looks nothing like the images portrayed. He had images in his head of having horrible outbreaks etc. which I to explain is not how the virus is or works. I had specifically given him websites to read etc. but he still googled it. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Terri. As always I appreciate your help immensely.
Well thank you, I appreciate your words and encouragement. 🙂 I do have another question if I’m allowed. Not sure where I’m at with payments. I’m wondering if those who were part of that study were considered “herpes survivors” because there was no transmission to the uninfected partner within the average time transmission usually occurs and whether the couples initially used protection i.e. condoms and anti-viral therapy before not using them? Thank you, again.
Thank you, Terri. 🙂
Thank you, Terri. What are the chances of someone getting HSV-1 through kissing? Is it relatively slim or is it much like HSV2 and your findings with that. I realize there isn’t much if any data on HSV-1 so I realize there aren’t or may not be numbers but I’m wondering from your perspective. Thanks again for all your help! Its frustrating and sad going through rejection because of this but thank goodness for outlets like this and others as well.
Thank you, Terri. I appreciate your words and knowing that I presented the facts accurately. Its very frustrating and sad. Yes, it is a big sigh of disappointment. When he said he was afraid to kiss me now I didn’t think at the time but this morning I thought well then he should be afraid to kiss everyone then. I too wish he would test but yes you can’t engage someone who is scared and isn’t open to it. He said he’s also a cautious person yet doesn’t think that he has a greater chance of getting this or any other STD apparently from someone else. I am wondering though if there is any data on how often shedding occurs while on meds? It looks like in the handbook those are the percentages of time without meds? Thanks so much, let me know if I need to pay again.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 3 months ago by KRGus.
Thank you, Terri. I appreciate all your help.
Is that statistic without antivirals? Could you shed some light on how much antivirals help with viral shedding? I know they help significantly but is there a varying degree to how much?
Another question, I’ve read although more research needs to be done but that if the uninfected partner washes with soap and water after sex that this helps? Is there any validity to that?
Lastly, I happen to watch your YouTube video last night and it helped me out. I was diagnosed with HSV2 genital in 2008 and was never diagnosed or tested for oral. I had my first outbreak orally in 2013. I still get down about it. I do have friends and support around me who have it as well which has been an absolute blessing but there are still those times, so thank you for reminding me that it doesn’t define me. 🙂
My friend as I’ve come to realize and went back to look at the messages from her that she was referring to shedding rates. I’m unaware of where she got the number from or if the number refers to a year, one time or a lifetime. I understand and know that there aren’t actual statistics oral to genital transmission. Thank you for your patience with all of this, I appreciate it. I honestly have been stressed out about the situation and wound up calling and speaking with someone at UW virology research clinic today. They were helpful as you have been and have put my mind at better ease that the possibility of infecting him is very low. Thank you for your suggestion and to get clarification from him. I have found this forum and website very helpful as it can be frustrating reading things on the internet.
BTW..I did purchase follow-up questions yesterday. Thanks.
Thanks. Yes, I wanted to know what the likelihood of me (a female whose infected) giving oral sex to him whose uninfected would be of him contracting the virus. I was told at most 10% would be the odds of him contracting the virus from my mouth to his genitals but I get that this isn’t an actual statistic since there aren’t any statistics on this and that it varies. I didn’t do it for very long between 2-5 minutes and it was once. I just know 50% of new genital cases come from oral sex, correct? This worries me since the last thing I would want to do is to pass this to another person however I figure the risk would be about the same as me (whose infected) kissing him who doesn’t have HSV-1?
Thank you so much for your response. Yes, that is what I would like to know. They say they have been tested but I’m not sure they’ve actually been tested for HSV since you have to ask for it as it’s not part of the regular screening panel. I’ve been told at most it’s less than 10% odds but this is what a friend told me who has HSV. Though she knows her stuff I wanted to ask someone in the medical field about it however, I’m thinking she may have been going by the shedding rate you state above.
Thanks again for your help.
- This reply was modified 7 years, 5 months ago by KRGus.
Sorry about my questions. What I’m really wondering is what is the transmission rate to an uninfected partner contracting genital HSV-1 from a partner whose infected with HSV-1 oral with meds and without and without visible signs-I.E viral shedding. It sounds like there isn’t data for this though? My numbers come from mainly the H opportunity website which match up to yours, but I think I’m misunderstanding things and obviously getting confused. Here’s the link to the chart I’ve looked at.
I’m concerned because though I’m taking meds I am wondering how likely is it for a partner to contract HSV-1 genital from an infected partner with the virus whose performed oral sex on them. Thanks so much! Hopefully this makes a little more sense now. Sorry for the confusion on my part making it confusing for you.