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How often would you say that the antibodies are missed ? Are there any statics with that? I imagine fairly low ?
I am certain it is hsv 2. The infected person contacted the virus in 2013. Went in with lesions, and a blood test was drawn. I made him double check and the results where positive for hsv2. There wasn’t much contact less then 5 mins I would say. He had antiviral medicines as well as an ointment that is used when out breaks occur. When I confronted him about my issues. He stated that it seemed right about the time he may have been having an out break. I really can’t remember if there was any skin to skin contact. My skin was really irritated from peppermint soap. I heard that peppermint is something hat can help kill viruses in contact. He mentioned that he wasn’t sure but claimed that he was tested positive for hsv1. No oral was conducted. My experience with the cold sore I had years ago. From what I remember when I started the break out my skin around my lips were irritated and started to burn and itch. Blisters begin to form and they were not like pimples at all. The sore was painful and itchy. A yellowish puss leaked from the sore. And would crust over then break open again and crust over and leak fluids. The sore was extremely itchy and not comfortable at all. It was on the bottom half of my lips. I went to urgent care. The doc didn’t test the lesion. However, stated this was herpes. Told me how to care for it and prescribed me valtrex and left it at that. I took as prescribed and left it at that. There have been a few times were the area that was infected would start to itch and sting a little. I think I have only had one other outbreak. That was ten years ago. When I was cleaning that area I felt a bump and it felt a little tender to the touch. I left it along for a few days and then decided it must be an ingrown hair. When I squeezed it the area was somewhat firm almost a little hard like. Just tender. Not painful or itchy at all. It formed like a small blood blister and bleed just a little. Not much so I took a needle to see if the hair was hiding just under the skin. it bled there was no puss just watery discharge with blood. That’s when I cleaned it with the peroxide. I also put an anti bacterial ointment on it. It wasn’t really uncomfortable or painful and didn’t itch. Touching the sore didn’t hurt either. I remember with the cold sore it hurt to touch it a little. When I went in that’s when I noticed to smaller lesions so that was a little concerning for me. I don’t remember that initially. But at the beginning I was not as concerned. When the doc at urgent care took a sample that was a little painful. It didn’t experience and itching or soreness I ‘d examine my underwear at the end of the day to see if there was any fluid from the area and there was none. It didn’t itch until well after it started to heal. The area itches sometimes. I don’t shave as often. I had laser hair removal. But the hair is starting to grow
Thank you again for this forum and taking the time to answer questions.
I am concerned about the false negative testing. I did not get the swab test with in 42 hours. I had it done with in 72 hours. The lesion was still wet. I had cleaned it 24 hours prior to getting it tested with hydrogen peroxide. Would this impact the testing results at all?
I’m waiting for results of my third blood test. My doc does the herpes select.
Tested negative for both hsv 1 and hsv 2. Once in the 23rd of May and June 13. I have a baseline at least. When someone that tests for herpes before the 16 weeks am I safe to assume that if the results keep coming back the same that I have better odds of not having hsv2?
I’ve read other posts and have read that once someone is tested and the igg misses the virus. Then the virus will not likely ever pick it up. How often does that happen ?
I’m curious to know how much time does it really take to get infected from the virus. I was under the assumption that it would be the second the skin came into contact with the virus. But I’ve also read that 10 mins or less is really low risk. Generally what is the time frame. Or does it just very from person to person?
I ask because the contact was less then ten minutes and I washed myself after.
I’ve been living with not knowing if I have this virus or not. Both doc thought the lesion was herpes. I can’t think of anything else. When I initially got the outbreak when I pick that it it kind of became a blood blister. I think I read somewhere that the virus does not bleed or am I misinformed?
Pcr test and blood test conducted right around 8 to 10 weeks. May 23
Another blood test done June 13 right around 11 to 13 weeks.
Test results the same. Hsv 1 positive hsv2 negative.
I have had some itchiness in the area where the sore were. But not just there other places as well. I’m thinking it would be from not shaving as often. I am getting some white bumps in the vulva area. But nothing is coming of it that it almost looks like it’s where the hair folicules are.
I am right around the 16 week mark and I am hoping for reassurance, as I will probably hear from you before I get the results back.
In your opinion is my risk of having the virus relatively low. Say 85 % to 95% not having it.
Thanks again to your assisstance.
Previously I had posted a question in regards to the accuracy of a pcr test conducted from the lesion. I had cleaned it a couple of times prior to going to an urgent care doc to having it tested. I used hydrogen peroxide 24 hours prior to having the lesion tested. It was the forth day from noticing the lesion or I could say three days from picking at it. That I saw the doc. You had asked me what the time frame was from cleaning the lesion to having it tested. The results from the test came back negative both for hsv1 and hsv2. My question was using the peroxide prior to the testing, could that produce a false negative test? They used the pcr test. I was told it’s 90% acurate.
Also, gain I understand the 16 week testing period. I am just wondering are my odds of having it low based on the <.2 test result that came back ?
Were you able to make see the crater like whole in the picture I submitted. They or located smack dab In the middle. Would that be something that would be consitant looking of a herpes lesion healing?
Is it normal to feel a lot of itching in that area if you did have herpes, after the lesion healed ?
Thank you again for your time with all of this. I am just hoping my odds of not having it are better than actually having it.
I will rested this Friday as that will be at the 12 week mark. If my results don’t change would you think I would be ok ? Should I worry if the results rise greater then 1.0 for example?
Also when I did use the hydrogen peroxide to clean the wound it didn’t burn or tingle afterwords. It just felt like a cool wet whipe. Never did the sores burn or sting after urination. I didn’t have difficulties with using the restroom. The first week. The 2nd week I experienced cramping like I was going start my period. Cramping in the stomach. But it is also not common for me with some of the meds I take and I not regular. I don’t know if any of these things matter. I’m just trying to give you as much information as I can.
Just to recap. I didn’t notice any itching on the area until a week and a half after my sore had appeared.
In the picture with my fingers. You may see three little marks. Right below. I know you said they were hard to make anything of. But thought that might help as well.
Here is a copy of the results from the blood test. I realize that they may be too soon. But are my odds any better if I wait another full 6 weeks? Also if I have hav1 orally does that by chance reduce my odds of being infected by hsv2? I know that’s not 100%. But curious.
I also already deal with w Nero muscular problems. I have FHSD. Muscular dystrophy. I don’t know if that impacts me at all for better or worse. Is it possible with some of the medications. I take for that could cause lesions. I have been under a lot of stress and some hormone issues. I had to get tested for breast cancer. Negative. Thankfully but I read sometimes stress and simply cause ulcer like sores.
Name Value Reference Range
HSV 1 GLYCOPROTEIN G-SPECIFIC, IgG POSITIVE
HSV 1 IgG LEVEL >8.0 AI
HSV 2 GLYCOPROTEIN G-SPECIFIC, IgG NEGATIVE
HSV 2 IgG LEVEL <0.2 AI
HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS 1 & 2, IgM NEGATIVE
HSV 1&2 IgM LEVEL 0.72 IV
There was my test results from the blood test. The doc that took the test was almost positive it was herpes. While the first one at the urgent care. Said the same but it was unclear since I did not have any other symptoms.
Thank you again.
Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to fit everything in on segment.
Yes , roommate is male. We showered together one evening. I remember him using peppermint soap to wash me down there. The thought was the tingling sensation would feel good. It ended up really irritating my genital. We stopped got out of the shower and went to his room. This is where I am having a hard time remembering about the details. I’m pretty sure there was skin to skin contact. With out gentitals But I had to stop him. Because my skin was stinging from the soap. We have had sex in the past but I had no idea that he had it. Until my problem surfaced and he admitted it and when asking him about the timing. He said sounds about right. So my best guess was he was having an outbreak. I’m not sure if he was taking medicine at the time. But when I described the symptoms. That’s when I became concerned.
Noticed sore Monday morning. Picked at it Monday may 18th evening. Tuesday evening used the peroxide to clean the wound. Wednesday it was swollen. I can’t remember if I out peroxide on the sore that evening. But let’s say I did. Thursday evening around ten pm. They did the swab then. That was also the day I noticed two more much smaller sores. Friday 22nd of may the blood work was done. That Dr gave valtrex. I didn’t pick up the meds until Sunday afternoon. After I had got a call for the negative results from the lab. I decided to start taking it Monday the sore had already begun to heal. With no irritation. The sores never crusted over. I took the valtrex 1 gram twice a day. Until Saturday may 30. I would say the itching started wed or Thursday. Itching like a rash was starting to heal. I wish I has better photos. Or took pics before it started to heal. The 2nd doc is convinced it’s hsv1 genital. But. Isn’t that highly unlikely if I had it orally already. The person has hsv 2. It’s not entirely clear if he was taking the antiviral meds at the time.
Really the sores looked like ulcers. I’m waiting for one more test. I did for chlamydia, gonorrhea and some thing that starts with a t. I can’t remember. But it is my understanding those things may possibly give sores as well.
Blood test hsv1 8.0
Hsv .56 I think
I assumed that it was not enough time for the blood work to give me clear answered. I just wanted to know In your opinion if I have any hope and their are signs it could be something different.
I would add that the sores really starts to look minimal by Tuesday the following week from when I noticed them.
I can remember when I felt it at the beginning that it kind of felt hard like a scab. I think that’s the best way to describe it. When I squeezed it. It became like a blood blister. Then the following day I tried to pick at it with a needle to see if it was an ingrown hair. I have done laser hair removal In that area. But had been 6 months since that treatment has ended. If it mater.
I hope this clarifies your questions.
oh one other thing, I just used neosporen on the area, the sores never crusted over like it seems people have when they have the out break. they seem to be almost gone from the time that I have noticed them I would say it took only a week and a half I can’t see them anymore, the only thing I am dealing with is it just feels a little itchy from time to time.
with the way that the test results came back and the length of time i may have been first introduced, can I feel more confident that this maybe something else and not herpes. How after do false negative blood IGG test show after ten weeks of possible exposer?
The doc that took the lesion pcr test said that it accurate 90% of the time. but was 48 to 72 hours to long to wait before I got the testing done? and do you think that I screwed up and may actually get a false negative results for both virus if I used hydrogen peroxide. the biggest lesion showed up first the smaller two lesions below I didn’t notice until I went in for the screening. The nurse took the sample from the biggest lesion.
Should I be concerned that during the healing phase it was more sensitive than from when the sores where actually open wounds? If its not hsv2 or 1 in the genital area, what else could cause the sore. I tested negative for syphilis and HIV, I am waiting the results for the uraine sample that they are testing for all other possible sti’s and stds. I just had a physical and negative for hpv.
Can stress and hormonal imbalance also cause sores from a non sexual contact. just two weeks prior i had the stress of finding out if I had breast cancer, which i do not.
I really appreciate that you have an open form for questions in this regards. I have read a lot of post from other people and have found them very useful but still had questions from my own. I am really curious to know your thoughts from the photos and from what you think about my tests being negative. thank you again. you do wonderful work!!!