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Thank you Terri, that information helps calm my nerves.
Another question or 2; an add on to the food/drink/bedtime kisses question I guess… I have read that some of the most contagious time is right before an outbreak (and during, of course).
1. Therefore, would the risk of transmission be a concern if I had shared food/drinks or gave a bedtime kiss right before a cold sore was to start? For example – my prodromal period is really tiny. Never more than an hour, usually less. I’ll feel the itchy/irritated feeling and then a lump/sore starts to form very, very quickly afterwards. I am pretty switched on to my body and there is never any more warning than that. SO my main question is; If I were to share a drink, food or give my child a kiss on the lips right before that happened, within minutes type of timing – which could very well happen with my almost-no-warning cold sores, would there be an increased risk due to the shedding that would be occurring right as the prodromes started?
2. Is asymptomatic shedding (in HSV 1 oral) anything to be concerned off at any time, in terms of transmission? Or am I too just assume that its not a risk, in terms of infecting my children? Its the ‘asymptomatic shedding/prodromal risk’ that is what makes me so anxious. I am VERY careful when I have a cold sore, but worry so much about passing it on when I don’t have one, because of that pesky shedding.
(ALmost everything I read states how contagious oral HSV 1 is and that it can be transmitted by food, drinks, cups, toothbrushes, etc etc even without a cold sore, because of the shedding of the virus.)
Thank you again!
(I purchased another round of questions, but couldn’t figure out how to start a new topic)
I wanted to know if the following is a transmission risk?
I drank a glass of orange juice tonight & it had a little bit left in the bottom, it sat for 10 mins or so (probably more) until I refilled it, my daughter saw it on the bench after refilling it & got a new straw from the drawer & drank out of it. Of course, I freaked out. I do not currently have a cold sore. I am wanting to know if this is a transmission risk.
1. Could there have been living virus in the leftover bit of drink at the bottom of my glass and she drank it from the straw?
2. Or could living virus have been on the rim of my glass from where I was drinking & gotten onto her straw when she put it in the glass?
3. Is there any way she could catch the virus from a shared drink if using separate straws?
Is sharing drinks ok if we use separate straws in the same drink?
I’m thinking that this is a non issue from other posts I have read but want to be sure.
Thank you again,
- This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by Terri Warren.
Thanks Terri, I will be seeing a therapist as soon as I can get an appointment.
I have more questions/scenario for you;
1. today an aquaintance of mine shook hands with my daughter & around 30 secs or so later my daughter used the same hand to wobble her loose tooth. This friend has what may be an outbreak on her chin under her mouth (I’m not sure if herpes or not). The friend has been ill & coughing into her hand…
Could this have transferred the herpes virus to my child? Say if it was in fact herpes & friend had coughed into her hand & touched the sore whilst doing so, then shook hands with my daughter, who then put her fingers in her mouth…? Would this be a risk?
I didn’t see my friend cough into her hand directly before shaking my daughters hand but it was only a period of a minute or so from seeing her to the hand shaking so she could have done it just before I saw her… I’m so worried now. I don’t want to be, but I am…
2. In the same vein as the above question – Is herpes transferrable via hands? Say if someone with an active sore touched the lesion, then touched my child’s hands & she touched her mouth?
Thank you again!
Thank you Terri. It turns out it IS hsv1. The swabs were positive. I should have been more clear; the lesions weren’t there for the month solid – they started a month or so ago, maybe 2 months by now & they heal quite fast (under a week generally) but keep popping up. The doc prescribed a 6 month course of Valtrex & hubby is going to start working on immune system/healthier living & wearing sunscreen/hat more often (as I believe sun exposure is what has been triggering them & he’s been relaxed about it lately). Unfortunately I live in Australia & it is quite difficult to get anti viral prescriptions here. Normally only for genital infections & only 6 months max my doctor said but she knows I struggle with anxiety so is quite lenient with me 🙂
I have another question however; (logically I keep telling myself I’m being silly but I’d like some reassurance….)
today hubby kissed the back of my neck while I was cooking… about 20-30mins later my little one jumped on me while I was lying down & kissed/put her face all over the same area. Hubby’s nose seems clear at the moment, but if any saliva or virus had gotten on the back of my neck when he gave me the quick kiss & then dried or been exposed to air, could the virus still be alive & my child have been infected/exposed this way? (I had been cooking & walking around & then laying on my back on the bed prior to rolling over so no ‘wet’ saliva or anything on me). Can the virus be transmitted like this? From her mouth/lips touching an area his lips had touched earlier?
Thank you again… (on a side note; I have decided to see a therapist as I have developed anxiety related to herpes & my child. Logically my brain knows she’ll be just fine, even if she does get it, but my anxiety is making it very hard for me to get a handle on it & I DO NOT want it to affect her!) this part was not a question 🙂 … just an update as even to myself I come across as anxious!
Apologies (couldn’t find a way to edit the above) I just wanted to clarify that he just told me he didn’t actually scratch at her back/bites with his fingernails, he said because he doesn’t have fingernails he actually rubbed her back with his palm/hand to stop the itch.. so could either of those actions have transmitted the virus if he had touched the lesion? (either the rubbing or scratching)
Also, if he was holding her hand after maybe touching the sore/lesion (he thinks he may have touched/scratched the nose not long before holding he hand/rubbing her back) could the virus have gotten onto her hand from his & if she had rubbed her eyes or mouth ect – could this transmit the virus?
Sorry, a lot of questions today! Hope I didn’t cause any confusion.
Thank you again.
I have one last question about a situation from today. I hope I am just being over anxious! My daughter and her little friend were swimming in our paddling pool today.
Her friends nose was getting water in it from all the bomb diving and she wiped her nose/face on my daughters towel. My daughter, a minute or so later, decided to do the same & wiped her face/nose on the same towel her friend had just wiped on.
The friend did not have a cold sore (and I haven’t seen her with one) but I know some members of her family do get them & they all share bottles/food etc.
Is there a transmission risk from this if her friend was shedding/has the virus? Obviously I cannot be sure they wiped in the same place, but if they did & my daughter got some saliva/snot on her face/lips/nose?
My husband thinks I am overreacting being worried about this and I am really hoping I am too…
Also, in regards to asymptomatic shedding – I am always little confused about it. If someone has the virus in their system but has never gotten a cold sore, approximately how often would they shed? For example – my dad gets cold sores but my Mum has never had one, I imagine she has the virus from being married to my Dad for 40 years and sharing everything. How likely and how often would it be that my mother would shed the virus if she had it but has never gotten a breakout?
Also, can transmission happen by way secondary exposure? Example; if I am shedding and touch my mouth and then touch something my daughter then puts in her mouth? Or if I am shedding from my mouth and her hand brushes my mouth/face and she puts her fingers in her mouth? I am very, very cautious when I have a cold sore and would like to relax a little when I don’t have one. We never share drinks or food and kiss on foreheads/cheeks but just by way of normal existence, how careful do I need be?
Apologies for such a big question – most important is the scenario from today so I can try & put myself at ease.
Sorry, one more question/scenario…
today my little one ate a strawberry out of a punnet other children were eating from before I could stop her.
I didn’t realise until AFTER she ate it that they were putting their berry hulls back in after eating them. One of the children had a little sore in the corner of his mouth (don’t know if cold sore but may have been). What are the risks in this scenario? (If it was HSV)
– If my daughter ate a strawberry that one of his chewed/eaten hulls had touched, is she now at risk of catching HSV? Could the saliva and therefore virus transfer from his half chewed strawberry to the one she ate? There was not much time in between her eating the berry and them putting the eaten hulls back in so I’m worried saliva may have been on her berry – specifically from the little boy with the sore.
Is she at any risk at all?
– for further circumstances, can the virus be transmitted via food. If someone with an ACTIVE sore were to touch their mouth/lick fingers & then touch communal food, is this a risk?
Thank you. One more question from a situation that happened this morning (I can’t believe it’s been twice in a 2 week period!)
My husband took my daughter to a McDonald’s with an indoor playground & she came out of the playground & told him she had touched a ‘blow stick’ (her word for cigarette butts). He washed her hands straight away but I am so anxious. There was no one on the playground when she got there so I’m not sure how old it was? I assume it’s cleaned once a day maybe and it was in the morning, around 10am, so could have been from anytime from just before they arrived to the night before… she said she didn’t touch her mouth and came straight to dad to wash her hands but if she did touch her mouth, what are the chances she’s gotten HSV from an old cigarette butt? Is that possible? I’ve gotten conflicting answers from the good Ol’ google search 🙁 she is really good with not touching things normally, no idea why she did this time…
So long story short;
1. Can HSV be transmitted from an old cigarette butt in this situation?
2. And for my own information & sanity, as I’d really like to get a hold of my new anxiety on this subject; is it possible for a child to get HSV from touching something (cigarette butts, used utensils/forks, used cups ect) and then putting hands/fingers in mouth – as children tend to do?
Great. Thank you so much – that has put my mind at ease…out of curiosity how long would the virus survive on those types on objects/conditions; lipbalm, lipsticks ect? I assume it would vary but what would you call the maximum ‘safe’ time for a lipbalm? Like if I used it & got virus on it, when would it be clear from active virus again? thank you again 🙂